• Nadal faces Ferrer in Madrid quarterfinal

    5/10/13 12:57 AM | Kelli DeMario
    Nadal faces Ferrer in Madrid quarterfinal World No. 5 Rafael Nadal is set to headline play at the Mutua Madrid Open with a quarterfinal-round match against fellow Spaniard David Ferrer. The players will be looking to secure a place among the final four.

    World No. 5 Rafael Nadal is through to the last eight after defeating former World No. 8 Mikhail Youzhny in straight sets. The 26-year-old Spaniard secured five of 10 break points en route to a 6-2, 6-3 victory.

    "Since I've been back, I haven't had the security that I am in my perfect moment," Nadal explained. "I just have to try and feel that I am getting better and better day after day. So, I have to have my feet on the ground. I made it to the quarterfinals of Madrid. For me, it's lovely to be able to say that today. I'll try to enjoy the quarterfinal match tomorrow."

    Nadal is bidding for his seventh consecutive semifinal berth of the season.

    Nadal holds a 17-4 series edge over World No. 4 Ferrer, having won all clay-court meetings since their first in 2004.

    "I will try to play a really good match and see," Ferrer said. "It's not only about tactics. It's just that Rafa is a really good player. It's very difficult to beat him. We'll see how it goes. I will try to play aggressively. I will try to miss as few balls as possible, and let's hope that Rafa doesn't have his day."

    Ferrer advanced to the quarterfinal following a three-set defeat of 13th seed Tommy Haas. The 31-year-old veteran is seeking his second semifinal berth in Madrid.

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#Vamos Rafa

nadline , 5/10/13 10:29 AM

Congratulations Rafa.

Twinge , 5/10/13 10:54 AM

Bull is in the house!

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 3:28 PM

1st game, 1st set, Robbie Koenig has already mentioned Novak TWICE.

I am muting him anytime now.............

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 3:35 PM

It's a shame you can't only mute the commies.

nadline , 5/10/13 3:47 PM

On ferrers last service game raaf had 15-30 and he played three points so badly almost like it was a practice game. Now he's facing break points on his serve. Wheres the sharpness??

willmw101 , 5/10/13 3:49 PM

He is severely rattled by that time warning.

ed251137 , 5/10/13 3:52 PM

I notice that no one has ever asked Federer what he thinks of the enforcement of the time between points, that's because they he is responsible for introducing it.

nadline , 5/10/13 3:53 PM

Rafa's still in the locker room............

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 3:57 PM

Jesus, nadal is playing badly.

willmw101 , 5/10/13 3:57 PM

Rafa looks like he has no energy out there........

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 4:02 PM

beautiful from our Rafa...amazing passing shots...

Vamos Rafa!

natashao , 5/10/13 4:08 PM

There we go

willmw101 , 5/10/13 4:09 PM

He's playing without 'calm'.

ed251137 , 5/10/13 4:12 PM

Still hasn't settled, our Rafa, not in the groove at all, fits and starts.........

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 4:14 PM

And Ferrer is eating up Rafas 2nd serves

ed251137 , 5/10/13 4:16 PM

Rafa will not lose any point here. I prefer him to go home and practice for Rome.. He must defend 1000 point there.

tettylds , 5/10/13 4:16 PM

Such a weird performance... Was so good for a game and a half and now it looks like he doesn't want to play well....

willmw101 , 5/10/13 4:16 PM


RickyDimon , 5/10/13 4:19 PM

Just doesn't feel like he wants to be out there.............but give Ferru his due, he looks up for it..

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 4:19 PM

The commies are saying the MC loss to Djokovic is what is affecting him, can you believe this rubbish?

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 4:22 PM

Horrific first set from nadal. What is wrong with him?? How can he be playing this badly after the comeback he's had, so many reasons to be confident and yet he is playing like he has no faith in his shots and like he doesn't give a shi*.

willmw101 , 5/10/13 4:23 PM

unexpected but interesting

isfand , 5/10/13 4:25 PM

I hope Rafa sees that pathetic second serves won stat (8%), 1st set, and is suitably embarrassed..............

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 4:25 PM

Uncle Toni doesn't look bothered...........

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 4:26 PM

I've seriously never seen nadal play with apathetically.

willmw101 , 5/10/13 4:29 PM

3rd upset on the cards..

sanju , 5/10/13 4:30 PM

I think he needs another 7 months break........

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 4:30 PM

Worst rafa has ever played break points.

willmw101 , 5/10/13 4:31 PM

Nadal deserves to lose this. Shockingly bad.

willmw101 , 5/10/13 4:33 PM

Complete joke. Rafa doesn't want to be in Madrid, there's no other explanation.

willmw101 , 5/10/13 4:35 PM

The dead hand of Federer is in every Rafa match with the time violation warning.

nadline , 5/10/13 4:40 PM

Finally, Rafa puts in a decent return game and breaks Ferru to love........long way back if he really wants to be in Madrid tomorrow..........

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 4:41 PM

welcome back,'s about the time Rafa starts playing his game...

Vamos Rafa!

natashao , 5/10/13 4:42 PM

Break Rafa!!!

Can't see the match. OK since I hate watching him play tentative which is how it sounds.


Conspirator , 5/10/13 4:44 PM

Is rafa injured again? What is this performance?!?

willmw101 , 5/10/13 4:46 PM

Truly shocking.

willmw101 , 5/10/13 4:47 PM

uhhh...horible from Rafa...

natashao , 5/10/13 4:47 PM

Ferrer deserves to win this..period

sanju , 5/10/13 4:48 PM

Rafa letting Ferrer dictate. His range is just off right now. The shots are there though...he just needs to find them.

cherylmurray , 5/10/13 4:48 PM

Okay, Rafa is going home tonight. On this performance I doubt if he will even go to Rome. He is not chasing balls, just waiting for Ferru to make mistakes, not winning material................

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 4:49 PM

Such a joke. How can rafa build momentum if he can't even be bothered to play properly in Madrid.

willmw101 , 5/10/13 4:50 PM

and these Rafa's slices are like wrapped gifts for Ferrer...time to go home, Rafa...

natashao , 5/10/13 4:51 PM

RITB ; Whats wrong with you? You are so negative since past 2 days about him.You are almost writing as if its end of his career.

Rafa is hitting all he shots, its just that hes not fnding his range, they are just landing wide

I agree he goes home tonight nad frankly Ferrer deserves to win this unless he chokes

sanju , 5/10/13 4:52 PM

Game over.

willmw101 , 5/10/13 4:54 PM

Nothing wrong with me, sanju, but something definitely wrong with Rafa! I hate to sound like I am making excuses for Rafa but he is not himself, something is up......

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 4:55 PM

Something is definitely up. Worst I've seen nadal play since 2009

willmw101 , 5/10/13 4:57 PM

If he is not finding his range, his footwork is off............that only means one thing: his knee is bothering him.

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 4:58 PM

Rafa is doing his best.

nadline , 5/10/13 4:59 PM

#Vamos Rafa

nadline , 5/10/13 5:00 PM

Unfortunately, Ferru is refusing to cooperate and hands the break back! Please Ferru, this is too painful to watch, do the friendly thing and take Rafa, and us all, out of his misery.........

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 5:01 PM

You're are not speaking for me, ritb.

#Vamos Rafa

nadline , 5/10/13 5:03 PM

Trust me, this is coming from a good place, nadline. I do not want to see Rafa made a spectacle, and he is looking like one right now. He is ailing.........

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 5:08 PM

#Vamos Rafa

nadline , 5/10/13 5:11 PM

........and this is not @willow-style anti-jinxing from me, this is exactly how I feel, I don't like how Rafa is looking, too laboured........

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 5:11 PM

He has no push off when he runs to his forehand. Knee definitely sore but he looks like he wants to win this so maybe not so serious...

willmw101 , 5/10/13 5:12 PM

Rafa, just keep 'colm'.


nadline , 5/10/13 5:12 PM

Come on my boy ! you can turn the tables here...I have faith in you ! even when 2-4 down, he believed he could win and he is playignm somewhat better now !! RAFA BREAKSS VAMOSSS ! Ferru also got tight there...

The problem is rafa's backhand ! he does not have confidence in that wing at the moment..he is hitting those slices and they are just floating and sitting up..not the aggressive slices rafa often uses to dictate...THe positive thing is that rafa is striking his backhand SLIGHTLY better since 2-4..he is stepping up the court somewhat..

funny thing is that I returned home at 2-3 30-40 and rafa has started playing better I suppose since then :P

vamosrafa , 5/10/13 5:13 PM

Vamos Rafa!

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 5:13 PM

Rafa is NOT finding the range on his serve either...and ferru is eating up his weak 2nd serves...

vamosrafa , 5/10/13 5:16 PM

This is embarassing for rafa. So so so so so bad.

willmw101 , 5/10/13 5:17 PM

have not seen rafa struggling this much on his serve to be honest...ferrer's only strategy is to return well and hit to rafa's backhand..job done ! Rafa has missed his chance..he's more likely to lose now... I hope nothing serious is wrong...rafa does not have these 'off' days on clay :S

vamosrafa , 5/10/13 5:19 PM

Rafa visibly limping now. Not good

willmw101 , 5/10/13 5:19 PM

Folks, he is ailing, I don't know why anyone would want to ignore reality staring us in the face and say this is the "normal" Rafa out there. Actually, this reminds me of his RG loss to Soderling, same pattern, no footwork and we learned later on that his knees were troubling him.........

Vamos Rafa! Let's finish this....

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 5:21 PM

The only thing keeping Rafa out there is his pride, and dignity..........

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 5:25 PM

Yes , he is ailing...i am deeply concerned how bad it is ... OH MY , what a point LOL...i had closed my eyes thinking rafa is now gona face double match pnt...that was some point now...

vamosrafa , 5/10/13 5:26 PM

whatever it is , I want rafa to win this match..i dont want rafa to go out losing with his injured knee...He can retire from the SF if he is ailing so much...poor rafa,once again ferrer exploited his backhand to dictate

vamosrafa , 5/10/13 5:28 PM

a real see saw encounter

isfand , 5/10/13 5:30 PM

He is a champion, if he is going out, he will go out with dignity........


rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 5:32 PM

You gotta admire the fighting spirit of this man...the competitiveness ..its so damn clear something is bothering him and hsi energy level is down but he just hates to lose ! He is refusing to give up...4 set pnts, I presume its over now! 3rd set on its way

vamosrafa , 5/10/13 5:33 PM

nadal's certainly not lacking in mental strength atleast

isfand , 5/10/13 5:34 PM

Rafa takes the 2nd set in a tiebreak (7-3)

nadline , 5/10/13 5:34 PM

anyone who thought Rafa at any point was going to lose this match is...well...something that I can not write in print on a family website.

RickyDimon , 5/10/13 5:35 PM

Well played rafa..there were some brilliant shots..some good volleys , good defense and aggression ..but overall its NOT the rafa nadal we know...its DAMN CLEAR...the energy, the intensity, the firepower ..

vamosrafa , 5/10/13 5:36 PM

his play is lethargic but the guy is fighting so hard.

3rd Set.

Vamos Rafa.

Raindrops , 5/10/13 5:36 PM

Rafa starts serving this time, because Ferrer started the 2nd set which ended in a tie break.

nadline , 5/10/13 5:36 PM

I have NEVER not enjoyed a Rafa match such as this, even that OzOpen encounter where he played with a torn leg muscle was bearable...........

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 5:37 PM

minimum 3 breaks in this set as well

isfand , 5/10/13 5:39 PM

see good serving to erase the first breakpoint of 3rd set

Raindrops , 5/10/13 5:41 PM

Ferrer must be nervous now.

nadline , 5/10/13 5:43 PM

followed by a moon ball (lob) that hit the line to gain advantage. then followed by an ace to hold serve woooohoooo..

let's entertain ourselves shall we?

Raindrops , 5/10/13 5:44 PM

Difficult for me to be entertained when I see Rafa suffering, Raindrops, difficult. He is fighting, that's Rafa, but not easy to watch.....

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 5:48 PM

seee, one good drop shop shot and couple of forehand winner gave him a break of serve.


Raindrops , 5/10/13 5:48 PM


RickyDimon , 5/10/13 5:48 PM

Everyone and his dog can see that Rafa is not himself:

RT @TennisReporters: "Ferrer dropping that 2nd set with Rafa clearly not at his best is great example as why he is not a super elite player "

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 5:52 PM

RickyDimon, 5/10/13 5:35 PM

natashao , 5/10/13 5:52 PM

Two breaks for Rafa.

Ferru no longer playing with 'colm'.

nadline , 5/10/13 5:56 PM

anyone who thought Rafa at any point was going to lose this match is...well...something that I can not write in print on a family website.
RickyDimon, 5/10/13 5:35 PM

...posted AFTER Rafa won the tiebreak.

Ricky is the bizarro world version of willmw101.


Conspirator , 5/10/13 5:56 PM

good bye ferrer but djokovic camp will be keeping a very keen eye on this match

isfand , 5/10/13 5:57 PM


I am miserable watching the game and sitting at the same time at the bowl typing for i am having diarheaa LOL.

see 4-0 now 3rd set.

Raindrops , 5/10/13 6:01 PM

Thought rafas knee had gone there. :)

willmw101 , 5/10/13 6:01 PM

djokovic would have taken a 20 minute medical time out if that had happened to him ;)

willmw101 , 5/10/13 6:03 PM

Am sad for both Rafa and Ferru. Ferru because how can he feel good about himself when he knows he cannot even beat a Rafa on one leg? Rafa because I don't know how this affects the rest of his season......

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 6:04 PM

All these mistakes are un-Rafa like...........and yet he is winning.

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 6:06 PM

I never doubt my boy.

Vamos Rafa

nadline , 5/10/13 6:08 PM

I am so proud of proud! Not playing even close to his best he won the match! Bravo Rafa!

Vamos Rafa!

natashao , 5/10/13 6:09 PM

Conspirator - I said the entire time Rafa would end up winning with ease.


RickyDimon , 5/10/13 6:10 PM

If rafa plays like that against nishikori he will get easily beaten.

willmw101 , 5/10/13 6:10 PM

Yes I feel bad for ferru too..sooo close to winning (2 points) and still unable to to beat rafa on clay since 2004...will je ever be able to beat rafa on clay now? For rafa, he is the ultimate have seen federer, djokovic etc giving up and saying ' lets just finish this' ...rafa NEVER gives up..NEVER..he totally hates to lose a single set! I admire this soooo much ! role model ...

Very worried about the knee though...lets see what rafa says..he played much better in set 3 and the tie brk was good too ..

vamosrafa , 5/10/13 6:11 PM

Rafa had to take Ferru out right here to stop him widening the gap so that Rafa hs a chance to move up to #4.

#Vamos Rafa

nadline , 5/10/13 6:11 PM

VAMOS Rafa! Found a way to win even when he was not at his best. Please, anyone who finds the transcript of his post match presser, can they post it?

Thank you.

ps: sorry Rafans if I bored you with my negativity but difficult for me to be positive when it was clear Rafa was not at his best and this did not look like just a bad day at the office but a physical problem.....

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 6:11 PM

Based on the comments. don't think I'll watch this one later.

Still, winning when not at your best...


Conspirator , 5/10/13 6:11 PM

Rafa has survived today for another match tomorrow.


Raindrops , 5/10/13 6:12 PM

Now what are you going to say all you negative people?

Rafa not his best means bad day at office like Fed had yesterday and Djoko day before, it always does not mean something or the other is wrong with him . He has documented bad knees but for gods sake everytime hes not playing Rafa like, dont think somethings drastcally wrong with him, please!!

Didnt Fed and Rafa both say yesterday the altitude makes ball fly and thats exactly whaat resulted in those shots missing their mark and the 37 UE. How many shots in the match did you see Rafa just missing, his shots were there, they just had slight timing issue.

Just negative, negative all the time

sanju , 5/10/13 6:13 PM


A tennis match is not over until it's over.

nadline , 5/10/13 6:13 PM

38 winners, 37 U.E not so bad! 38 winners in 3 sets on clay is GOOD...there were surely problems with rafa but I am glad he won...I hope he is ok

vamosrafa , 5/10/13 6:14 PM

Ricky, only before the match (no different than anyone else).

BTW, I say the same thing when Fed is losing a match.


Conspirator , 5/10/13 6:15 PM

Rob Koenig ?@RobKoenigTennis 5m
@RafaelNadal will to win remains UNDILUTED....


Conspirator , 5/10/13 6:16 PM

The last thing Ferru expected half way through was losing, least of all a bagel.

nadline , 5/10/13 6:17 PM

@6:10 PM

What did you know that we didn't Ricky?

ed251137 , 5/10/13 6:18 PM

Rafa certainly not at his best...but his will to win is as strong as ever. He willed his way to that win. Pity for Ferrer though, he missed a HUGE opportunity.

cherylmurray , 5/10/13 6:18 PM

Raaf just won against Ferrer and people are predicting his loss against Nishikori alraedy..God.. too think its the knee..what makes you think his knee has suddenly got worse than ever tell me..can you explain, watching which of his shots makes you think so? To me he was moving well, hit like 38 winners..yes made 37 UE but it was a bad bad day at work

And guys please lets not expect Rafa of 2008-2010 ever, stop comparing him to that Rafa, it will never come back, hes 3 years older now with graver knee issues

sanju , 5/10/13 6:20 PM

cheryl..please temme..Rafa def not his best but do you think it was bad day at office, slight timing issue or as everyone is saying ' something wrong wrong with him'

sanju , 5/10/13 6:22 PM

Half way through the match, Peter Fleming had started going on that if anyone doubted that Ferrer was the true #4 this match would prove that he was.

nadline , 5/10/13 6:24 PM

RT @TennisReporters: "Nadal stomps mentally disheveled Ferrer in 3rd, wins 46 76(3) 60. That loss right there could ruin rest of Ferrer's clay season "

Hope he does the same to a certain #1 soon............

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 6:25 PM

You are right nadline, whether they are media,just fans or bloggers.


Conspirator , 5/10/13 6:31 PM

RITB... or a certain #11.


Conspirator , 5/10/13 6:33 PM

sanju, I sincerely hope you are right and it was just a bad day at the office. Appears to be more than that to me. I hope I am wrong. Still, a win is a win....


rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 6:33 PM

@Conspirator, you mean the soon to be Swiss #2? Rafa stomped on him so bad already he ruined his GOAT credentials.


rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 6:37 PM

Ricky Dimon is having a bizarre argument with Neil Harman on Twitter.

willmw101 , 5/10/13 6:38 PM

@6:25 PM
It was sad to see Ferrer unravel mentally after he lost the 2nd set. I fear the statement 'The loss could ruin rest of Ferrer's clay season' might well be come to pass.

Still one can only be thankful Rafa negotiated his way through a tough match. This was another classic cliffhanger from Rafa - i.e. winning a match he was on the point of losing.

ed251137 , 5/10/13 6:39 PM

Mardy Fish ?@MardyFish Watchin Rafa. I absolutely hate them enforcing the 25 sec rule so hard. Its like the NBA having their shot clock but with no actual clock

sanju , 5/10/13 6:39 PM

Yes but Rafa all tentative against Ferrer better part of 1st 2 sets was bizarre. Didnt he hand him bagels in RG 2012 and Mexico 2013?

sanju , 5/10/13 6:41 PM

ed251137 - it's nothing we haven't seen before

RickyDimon , 5/10/13 6:43 PM

sanju, when was the last time you saw Rafa slip and fall on clay, before today?

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 6:47 PM

I saw once in MC or Barcelona, not sure where

And its not like he kept on slipping.. I saw 2nd set onwards, saw him slip just once

sanju , 5/10/13 6:52 PM

He slipped in madrid 2011, that was the last time i saw hime slip on clay.

willmw101 , 5/10/13 6:58 PM

Feeling ok Rickster?

Ricky Dimon ?@RD_Tennistalk 2h
@NeilHarmanTimes just because Nadal has a 74-0 H2H against your fave player doesn't mean you need to cry about him taking 26 secs b/w points

Ricky Dimon ?@RD_Tennistalk 2h
shut the hell up, Neil. #ReusableTweet

@NeilHarmanTimes "@RD_Tennistalk Do I know you?"

Ricky Dimon ?@RD_Tennistalk 1h
not in the sense that you mean. RT

Neil Harman ?@NeilHarmanTimes 18m
@RD_Tennistalk I would very much appreciate not being asked to shut up on Twitter. If we descend to talk like that, it loses all meaning

Ricky Dimon ?@RD_Tennistalk 16m
@NeilHarmanTimes i wouldn't worry too much about it. you have far greater problems to worry about today. Namely one #TomasBerdych

Neil Harman ?@NeilHarmanTimes 15m
@RD_Tennistalk I don't have any problems at all whatever happens

Ricky Dimon ?@RD_Tennistalk 1h
Ferrer you BONEHEAD

Ricky Dimon ?@RD_Tennistalk 1h
what is the point of you, Ferrer?

Ricky Dimon ?@RD_Tennistalk 1h

Conspirator , 5/10/13 7:01 PM

^^^Can someone please investigate, is Ricky related to Fedkovic?


rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 7:06 PM

@sanju, it is not that simple..when rafa has troubled knees it is not that u'l see him limping and crying with pain !! How many of you could tell during his matches against Soderling and Rosol that his knees were SO bad?? I believe none ! From my experience, when rafa has bad knees, he looks kind of subdued , his backhand struggles and he is not able to get good penetration and depth on it..

My concerns calmed down somewhat when rafa handed ferru a bagel..he suddenly got better...I hope it was just the madrid altitude bothering him and he goes on to win win the title ! He lost a set to almagro in 2010 here and we know he won the clay slam in 2010 so madrid can pose these nagging problems for him...Remember he struggled so much agaisnt verdasco last year ? Apart from the blue clay, the altitude was surely an issue.. and we all also know who came out firing in rome and RG 2012 ! GO RAFA...

p.s , I am NOT the rafan who spreads negativity here, SURELY not

vamosrafa , 5/10/13 7:10 PM

He slipped in madrid 2011, that was the last time i saw hime slip on clay.

willmw101 , 5/10/13 6:58 PM

Thank you, proves my point. It is not normal for Rafa to slip like he did today on clay unless he is not sure of his footing and this had nothing to do with the court being slippery. Personally, the last time I saw him being this awkward was during the RG loss to Soderling.

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 7:10 PM

As in every year, if Rafa does well in Madrid, it is just the icings in top of the cakes.

Of course, until recently, the fedbots were going on and on about the winner of Madrid being a lock for Wimby.

Looking good for Rafa and Muzz then!

Of course, Ricky's not high on the clay Muzzard...

Ricky Dimon ?@RD_Tennistalk 2h
i would WD from my next tournament, too, if I lost to either Murray or Stepanek on clay


Conspirator , 5/10/13 7:19 PM

Btw Ricky, thanks for having Rafa's back in your, ahem, tete-a-tete with Neil Harman. You are absolutely right, people who whine incessantly about Rafa and on court time keeping have ulterior motives, mostly involving their favs' negative H2H against Rafa.


rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 7:22 PM

Ricky Dimon ?@RD_Tennistalk 2h
@NeilHarmanTimes just because Nadal has a 74-0 H2H against your fave player doesn't mean you need to cry about him taking 26 secs b/w points

BTW, is that the only stat you got, Ricky?


Conspirator , 5/10/13 7:27 PM

what about "only before the match" ????

RickyDimon , 5/10/13 7:33 PM

Good on you, Ricky............let them have it!!!

Monalysa , 5/10/13 7:42 PM

One moment you're defending Rafa with Neil and another moment you're attacking Ferru for choking against Rafa.


Conspirator , 5/10/13 7:44 PM

@ Conspirator,

As the moderator Ricky does not have to necessarily take sides!!! I think his job is to call it as he sees it!!

And I agree with him on Ferrer, he should have won considering Rafa's state of play but, of course, im ecstatic for Rafa for the win!!!

Monalysa , 5/10/13 7:49 PM

Ok, I started watching the match after 4 all in the 2nd set and Rafa's game at crucial moments was excellent. He just beat a red hot ferrer...what is this gloom and doom, I can't understand. I thought he played alright for the time I watched him...maybe not at his best, but still pretty good

atul1985 , 5/10/13 7:57 PM

Yes but telling Neil Harmans to shut up?

And freaking out at Ferru?


Conspirator , 5/10/13 7:57 PM

i wouldn't worry too much about it. I'm not that important.


RickyDimon , 5/10/13 8:03 PM

Did anyone see this during Serena's match this morning, her opponent tampering with the new balls to lesson Serena's power?

Ricky & Cheryl, what's your take on this?

nadline , 5/10/13 8:06 PM

Rafa didn't look like he'd given up at any stage so I never lost hope. This is tennis after all, there is always a chance to turn the match round.

#Amazing fighter
#It's not

nadline , 5/10/13 8:09 PM

#It's not over until the fat lady sings.

nadline , 5/10/13 8:12 PM

atul1985, 5/10/13 7:57 PM,

Indeed! I watched my recording of the match and didn't see Rafa playing on one leg or anything like it! To read the comments here, one would think we were at a funeral or something!

Of course, this wasn't Rafa at his best. But it's not like he was terrible. Ferrer played very well and Rafa wasn't at his best for a good part of the match. Rafa's serving wasn't good in this match. Also, this business of getting a break and then getting broken back. There were some great shots from Rafa when it counted.

People here seem to forget that Madrid is Rafa's weakest clay tournament. I think the high altitude is affecting him. That's why his shots were sailing long. The conditions at Madrid have never been ideal for Rafa. For all we know, the high altitude could be the reason his knee is bothering him.

Great champions win when they are not at their best. That's what Rafa did. He kept on fighting throughout the match. Now he's in the semifinals and yet some here are sounding like it's the end of the world. At least Rafa found a way to win against the current #4 player in the world when he didn't have his best tennis. We should be thankful that he didn't go the way of Fed. He couldn't find a way to beat Nishikori and he isn't struggling with any injury.

For the record, on vb someone said that in that press conference after the match with Youzhny, a person from the media asked Rafa about surgery. So Rafa didn't bring it up. He was pretty vague with his answer. Also, for those of you who are already going on about surgery, how do you even know that it can be done? Rafa suffers from knee tendinitis. There is no cure, surgical or otherwise, for this condition. He had a tear in the patella tendon of his left knee and the decision was made to opt for treatment and rehab as opposed to surgery. But for the underlying problem, which is the knee tendinitis, there is no surgical solution.

By the way, Andujar beat Nishikori! So the comments about Rafa losing to Nishikori were a bit premature. We should be happy right now. Rafa has gained points, is in the semis against Andujar and probably survived his toughest test today.

Rafa's will to win is like no one else. He won. That should be celebrated. One day at a time, one match at a time. Just like Rafa.

Nativenewyorker , 5/10/13 8:32 PM

It's Andujar then. He played Rafa close the only time they have played at RG 2011. Rafa now knows what to expect so I do not anticipate drama. I hope we see a more energetic Rafa tomorrow.

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 8:34 PM

Nadline -- As far as I'm aware, there is no actual rule against doing it. That being said, not only have I never seen anyone do that before, I personally consider it tampering with the equipment.

Serena has had to endure cheating all over the spectrum. One need only look at Jennifer Capriati and Justine Henin to see that. It's appalling behaviour and I can only say that I am glad Serena won that match. Such dirt tactics.

cherylmurray , 5/10/13 8:44 PM

Interesting take by Ferru: iday-Ferrer-Nadal.aspx

?Rafa is always the favourite on clay,? said Ferrer. ?Without any doubt he's the best and he's really fit right now.?

I will take your word for it, Ferru, about Rafa being fit. Who am I to argue with a pro?

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 8:46 PM


That was at the 2011 FO. Rafa had to go five sets to beat Isner and against Andujar he was down in the first set 1-5 before storming back to win. That first week at the 2011 FO Rafa struggled like we have never seen him struggle.

I am interested to hear Rafa's comments after this match. He has a real opportunity to get to the final now.

Nativenewyorker , 5/10/13 8:47 PM

@ Twinge,

'Congratulations Rafa.

Dont let any one get their hands on that crystal ball of yours!!!....hehe!!!

Monalysa , 5/10/13 8:53 PM

Posted on VB, Rafa's presser after his match yesterday

Q. Good afternoon, Rafa. Congratulations on the victory. We were a little bit worried. I don't know if it was just a feeling, but you were feeling more bad than normal?
RAFAEL NADAL: No, well, you know, sometimes I feel more and sometimes I feel less. Sometimes I have pain. Since the first day sometimes it's complicated, you know.
I try to avoid talking about it as much as possible, whisper it, because the results have been so good that with respect to my rivals ?? well, especially with respect to my rivals it's not the moment to analyze how I am.
It's just to analyze that I'm playing again. That's the most important thing. While I can, I will continue on this line. If not, if one day I have pain and if I cannot continue, well, we'll have to take some kind of decision to try and solve the problem with the knee.
Sincerely, it's nothing more than usual. Depending on the moments perhaps I have a little bit more pain. I don't do it on purpose, but maybe you can tell by looking at me. It's really nothing more.

I have just seen Rafa on SKY with the widest smile and looking very happy. He says matches like this help him a lot and that he doesn't think he played badly and he never gave up hope.

nadline , 5/10/13 8:59 PM

Nativenewyorker , 5/10/13 8:32 PM

I beg to differ. Rafa played terrible in my view. Ferru was Ferru but Rafa was not Rafa. He won, I am happy, but that does not mean I am going to gloss over what I saw. That 3rd set bagel was Ferru collapsing mentally not Rafa playing other-worldly tennis. I don't even want to re-live the details of what I thought was wrong with his game today, I suffered enough during the match. Not once did he look like he was enjoying himself out there. Did he utter even a single vamos? I heard lots of vamosses from Ferru.

I hope Rafa has no underlying issues bothering him and we see a lively Rafa tomorrow, one who plays with calm and joy. And gives some us his fans something to cheer about. I follow Rafa not because he wins matches, but because he gives me joy with his style of play, win or lose. Today was depressing for me and I hope I never relive the experience.

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 9:11 PM

Regarding speculation about surgery or otherwise, I am not a medical expert, I do not care what cause of action he and his team take going forward because I know whatever action he takes will be the best for him and his career. All I want is to see him playing with joy because that is what gives me joy.

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 9:36 PM

First I want to clarify that my post @ 8:47 PM was directed at your post @ 8:34 PM.

There were a few posts that popped up in between.

Now as far as your thoughts on the match, I do not agree with you. I just watched the match. After reading the comments here I thought that it would be much worse. Rafa hasn't played that well in any of his matches. That's why I was concerned about this match. I thought it would be difficult.

I am hardly one to gloss over what I see when Rafa plays. You know me better than that! I call it as I see it. There were times when I could see that the knee wasn't good, particularly when Rafa was sliding into the forehand side of the court. I replayed those moments a few times. I could see Rafa kind of pull up with the left leg and not extend it and slide out the way he normally would. So the knee is hampering Rafa's movement at times. The other thing was Rafa's serving. At one point he was only winning 10% of his second serves. The final stat for the whole match was 32% points won on second serve. Final stat for first serves won was something in the 60's%. The fact that he was broken back and initially getting the bbreak also isn't a good sign. So there were definitely issues.

Of course the 3rd set was Ferrer collapsing mentally. That was obvious. He was broken mentally after losing that second set in a tb. He knew that there were missed opportunities. But Rafa kept fighting. That's what I took from this match.

Reading your comments, one would think that he lost. I never wrote that he played well. I just didn't think he was bad as you and others did. He did pump his fist after great shots, but didn't do the vamos. I am assuming that the knee was bothering him. You mentioned him slipping. I did see that in an earlier match. I don't think it has anything to do with the knee. He even hit an insane off balance running forehand dtl for a winner at one point.

I am not depressed because I was prepared for it. I knew that it was probably going to be ugly. After Rafa's comments in his press conference about the knee, I sensed that not all was well. So I did not expect him to come out and play his best. I am just grateful that he won.

Nativenewyorker , 5/10/13 9:40 PM

Sorry but in my previous post I was trying to say that when Rafa got the break, he would then get broken right back. It didn't come out right in the original post.

Nativenewyorker , 5/10/13 9:44 PM

Nopes, i disagree...rafa was not at all terrible ! he played some great shots when needed was not vintage rafa but nowhere near terrible..i would like to see considerable improvement in his backhand and serve though...

As i mentioned before, even rafa's best year statistically on clay saw him drop a set to almagro in MADRID...its never the most comfortable of places for rafa after all..he can struggle for rhythm here...If rafa is healthy, this match shud not be a concern..

vamosrafa , 5/10/13 9:46 PM


Sorry, but it will happen once in a while.............................Rome and RG is coming!

Monalysa , 5/10/13 9:46 PM

rafaisthebest, 5/10/13 9:36 PM,

I am hardly a medical expert either. I don't know what can or cannot be done for Rafa's knee to a certainty. It is my understanding that there is no cure for knee tendinitis. I would assume that if there was, Rafa and his team would have done it already.

I don't know how to take this comment. I don't like to read things into what other people post. I think all Rafa fans want what is best for him and his career. Speaking only for myself, that is certainly what I want for him. But I brought up the fact that possible surgery was brought up in a question asked by someone in the media during his press conference after the match with Youzhny. Some here seemed to assume that Rafa just brought it up himself. He was answering a question.

I know that the torn patella tendon could have been repaired surgically, because that information was put out there. They wanted the more conservative option. None of us knows for sure what is going on with the knee. Rafa has indicated that he still has pain. That's not what we want to hear.

I am making it a point to stay in the moment. I just want to enjoy every match. I don't know what the future holds, but last night there were some comments here to the effect that RG was out and now Nole would be the favorite or Murray would have a chance. Some here were already discussing surgery and how they resigned themselves to it. No one has any information about surgery or whether Rafa will play RG or not. So I am going to wait and see what happens and try to be positive. Worrying and negativity never helped anything.

Nativenewyorker , 5/10/13 9:52 PM

vamosrafa, 5/10/13 9:46 PM,

Thanks for your thoughts on the match. At least you and I agree. I already mentioned Rafa's serve in my previous comment. Rafa's groundstrokes were going long and I attributed that to the high altitude. This tournament has never been ideal for Rafa. I just expected so much worse after what I read here.

Rafa did hit some great shots in the match when it really counted. As you said, he wasn't vintage Rafa but not terrible. I have seen him play much worse.

You did put in the caveat - if Rafa is healthy. That is the critical question. We don't know the answer for sure. He did indicate that there is pain in the knee. I thought some of his movements at times were compromised by the knee.

I value your opinion and am grateful that you shared your thoughts.

Nativenewyorker , 5/10/13 9:59 PM

"Reading your comments, one would think that he lost."

This is a common mis-perception about my commentary about Rafa. I do not expect people to understand but since people read the commentary let me try and at least explain myself: when I watch Rafa play, I am looking to enjoy myself and what gives me joy is when I feel he is enjoying himself out there. This is purely subjective of course, this is why I called it my opinion. I am not so arrogant as to expect other people to be convinced by my opinion or to agree with me, but if they do, fair enough.

Some people watch Rafa's matches with the objective of seeing him win, that's okay by me. I watch him to enjoy his game, win or lose. If I feel he is playing badly I will say so, regardless of the outcome. There are matches Rafa has lost which I have found immensely gratifying and there are matches Rafa has played, and won, which I found very disappointing. Today's was one of those. So what I posted reflected my feelings about the match, win or lose. That he won does not change my opinion of how he played. In fact I just read Tignor's RR and in his opinion the match was won, and lost, on one point. I tend to agree.

Of course, my opinion is not gospel, other people have theirs.

Sorry for the long post but I thought it necessary to explain my match commentary because it certainly will not be the last one and at least people understand, hopefully, where I am coming from!

I am not goi

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 10:04 PM

.....ignore last unfinished bit, don't know what I was going to write, but that is normal for me, I do not always know what I am going to write!

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 10:08 PM


I am pleased that you took the time to post some additional thoughts. I understand where you are coming from. I don't just watch Rafa to see him win. I watch for the pleasure of seeing him compete as only he can.

I can understand that there are times when Rafa wins and it's not satisfying. I get that. Everyone is entitled to their feelings. We all see things in our own unique way.

I read that part of Tignor's post but don't agree with it. I saw it as Rafa coming up with the brilliant shots when he needed to and that's why he won. He's done it so many times in the past.

I totally get where you are coming from. You said it quite well.

Nativenewyorker , 5/10/13 10:11 PM


Sorry, but it will happen once in a while.............................Rome and RG is coming!

Monalysa , 5/10/13 9:46 PM

Of course! And I am looking forward to Rome and RG, in fact doesn't the Rome draw come out today? Must check.............

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 10:12 PM

NNY - As I recall the concern for Rafa's knee last summer was the fat pad in the knee which was chronically inflamed. One of his doctors said that the pad could be removed surgically if the knee didn't respond to treatments. Haven't heard anything that specific lately.

Maya , 5/10/13 10:26 PM


Yes, I remember the issue of the fat pad. They called it Hoffa's Syndrome. It was said that surgery could be done to remove the inflamed fat pad if it did not respond. I also believe that there was information to the effect that the torn patella tendon could also be surgically repaired. I assume the knee did respond to treatment and that's why they didn't opt for surgery.

Also, you are correct that we have not heard anything in that kind of detail. I think that Rafa doesn't really want to discuss what may be going on with the knee. Do we even know for sure that he got treatment for the knee before MC? I think Rafa said something about not being able to practice until he got to MC.

Nativenewyorker , 5/11/13 3:48 AM

People are forgetting that Rafa played some vintage beautiful poins, some of his passing shots, volleys, lobs were great. Yes he was leaking errors, he had terrible misses at the net, something you dont see him missing, missed a smash too.

Regarding his serve and backhand, well yeah was bad iniially but it got better right as match progressed, didnt it? Wasnt he like making 80% plus in 3rd set serves.

David played very well but he played lot of smaller points better, Rafa played the bigger points and points that mattered better.

I dont think Rafas performance on court yesterday was even anywer close to how non-optimal Fed was on court against Kei or Djokovic against Grigor. Yet we are casting doomsday.

nd for he record many of Rafa-Ferrer matches are ugly. Rem MC 2011, BC 2011. Rafa won but they were ugly wins. Yest was 1 more ugly win.

sanju , 5/11/13 4:28 AM

cheryl..please temme..Rafa def not his best but do you think it was bad day at office, slight timing issue or as everyone is saying ' something wrong wrong with him'

sanju , 5/11/13 4:32 AM


Did you hear Ferrer's comments after the match? He said that Rafa is quite fit. That resonated with Rafa fans because these two are good friends. If anyone should know how Rafa is, Ferrer would be the one.

I agree with your comments about the match posted @ 4:32 AM. I did notice him missing some volleys at net. I also noticed Rafa looking quite exasperated with himself. He is such a perfectionist and expects so much from himself. You are also correct about the fact that his serve percentage went up in sets two and three. I think in set 3 it was something like 80%. They did put up the serving stats for both players in each set.

For what it's worth, I think Cheryl gave her overall view of the match higher up on this live blog.

Here is the one I was looking for - This is a good summation. I hope it answers your question.

cherylmurray, 5/10/13 6:18 PM

Rafa certainly not at his best...but his will to win is as strong as ever. He willed his way to that win. Pity for Ferrer though, he missed a HUGE opportunity.

Nativenewyorker , 5/11/13 5:27 AM

@sanju, you always like to pick on other people's "negativity" as you call it about Rafa's matches, well, I am calling you out for your persistent negativity about other people's opinions! At least those people have opinions ABOUT THE MATCH, you on the other hand seem to only have an opinion about other posters! Please, it is so annoying. If you do not like reading other people's opinions then a) press the scroll down button and do not read them and only read the positive opinions you like so much b) formulate YOUR OWN opinion!

Sorry to come on this strongly but you are going too far. Enough of your condescending attitude. I for one am looking forward to your comments on the match next time Rafa plays, like everybody else so we have a lively discussion, not whining about other posters' opinions which you may not like.

rafaisthebest , 5/11/13 8:29 AM

RITB - We all come here to discuss about Rafa, and frankly hearing doomsday about him is very upsetting. Are we not supposed to lift each others spirits up when the chips are down?

I got onto this site after a break of like 6-7 days and I just went onto a Rafa thread and the 1st statement I read was about his surgery. I was stunned as I did not read about it on any online news articles and here people were talking about his surgery. It shocked me no end thinking what wrong had happened in matter of few days to Rafa and then I realised slowly it was all conjecture and nothing else.

I have never commented on other posters except yesterday when people already assumed and forecasted he was on the surgery table and getting operated on his knees which I frankly thought was devoid of all logic. It okay to prepare for the worst but I feel this is like taking it to the extremest of positions.

Rearding you, you are one of the posters who usually brings in positivity about Rafa, didnt you predict RG, Wimby, and few other slams for him few weeks back?And all of a sudden its as if its all gloom which I simply found it difficult to comprehend. I myself am quiet pessimistic when it comes to Rafa but when I saw a person like you who is always positive about him so downcast about his future, it was like a jolt.

Anyways I am not going to comment on anyone anymore , please write what you all want and if doomsday is what few people on this forum want to predict for Rafa, go ahead and do it. Its not as if what is written here will change his fortunes for the better or worse. I sure am not going to get ahead of myself predicting all is over for him till it actually happens. If it happens, we have to face it period.

And for the amount of incessant fighting, name calling that happens on this forum, wonder why my calling few posts by Rafans on Rafa very negative had such a big impact? Anyways I am not going to spend any time thinking about that. I will as you say ignore posts baed on pure conjecture.

sanju , 5/11/13 10:02 AM

And I simply dont understand how can a person who hit 37-38 winners, played big points very well, won the match from a losing position be termed 'terrible' on court .

And its not as if he was playing No 100, he was playing No 4 on the court who is a proficient clay courter and has what it takes to trouble Rafa.

sanju , 5/11/13 10:08 AM

Like I said, sanju, personally, I would appreciate it if you would watch Rafa's next match, comment on what you see opinions and all. Read other posters comments and opinions although you do not have to, and if you disagree with their opinions offer a COUNTER POINT/ARGUMENT, focus on the point and make an argument, not go on about negative posters, it is irritating. It's like you want people to comment in a certain way, a way you only approve of. Enough. Your point about the number of winners Rafa hit, thank you, that IS a counter argument which focuses on the play rather than a poster.

We all come here to enjoy ourselves and being sanctimonious is dispiriting to be honest. No-one is more Rafan than others and we need to accept that our view-point is not always the view of the whole world. Nice if we could listen to other people's opinions, agree or disagree with them without making out like they are diminishing Rafa.


rafaisthebest , 5/11/13 10:39 AM

And this thing about surgery, it's just speculation. Just because some people talk about it does not mean it is gospel. Nothing to get worked up about.............let people say what they want to say.

rafaisthebest , 5/11/13 10:49 AM

ritb: nice try but you're pushing hot treacle upstairs. The incessant need to score points by denigrating something someone has said for the sake of it can be very wearing. Mind you there are occasions when winding someone up can be amusing - if you know what I mean ;-)

Sanju: the above is not a dig at you btw. It is a general observation. I understand where you are coming from.

ed251137 , 5/11/13 10:58 AM

ed251137, sigh. I want to express my opinion without feeling Big Brother is watching and will bring the harmer down on one "false" move, real or imagined.

@sanju, I apologies if I made you feel bad. I just want us to have a conversation and yes, disagree, without being unnecessarily dismissive.

rafaisthebest , 5/11/13 11:10 AM

Do you remember the run-in I had with Ricky when he took me to task every time I opened my mouth on the subject of why I didnt believe Rafa would risk playing AO?

Then I had other Rafa fans gunning for me as well. I gave up trying to get my point across.

ed251137 , 5/11/13 11:16 AM

RITB - I am not able to understand what you are trying to say or are so upset about? Anyways I do not have the energy to explain any further than what I did, maybe I am doing a bad job at trying to get my point across :-) . If you are upset , I can only apologize though I was not making a dig at anyone, I was just unable to understand why was there so much negativity in the past 2 days about Rafa.

Maybe I just dont have the power to see Rafa on TV and read his facial expressions and understand he is pained or something is wrong with him. Maybe my yardstick for him are less demanding than few of you expect from him on court. Maybe I dont go around counting number of Vamoses he utters and if he doesnt, feel something is wrong.Mybe I just dont assess his every move on court and hence I cant see most of the things few of you are able to see and comprehend.

I can for sure say Rafa after he has returned back is generally more subdued on court. It is not about yesterdays match, he is generally far more subdued from the time he returned in Chile . He no longer utters Vamos, does repetaed fist pumps, is all out passionate on court, thats what I feel. Maybe the 7 month break put him through so much realization, he is just taking it day by day and trying to enjoy however long his body holds up.

Anyways I have the choice, if I dont like a post simply dont read it and move on and focus on the posts that I find worthwhile reading and I am sure everyone here does the same. However yesterday and day before I non stop scrolling down only found 1 negative post after the other and barely found any rational positive post to dig into.

sanju , 5/11/13 11:24 AM

Sanju is right. There was almost non-stop negativity on this thread during the match. This combined with the commentary I was listening to (French TV) was contagious and had me believing I could actually see Rafa limping.

I too have noticed how he is far more subdued on court and introspective in his interviews - it is surely a sign he is still taking everything day by day. It is only natural he is apprehensive about the knee given the history of his injuries.

I take heart from the Haas saga. To see him playing the way he is today after years of injuries and surgery is a lesson to us all. Once a champion always a champion.

ed251137 , 5/11/13 11:47 AM

guys, please, we don't need to fight over this...the view on this depends on expectations each of us had from Rafa...TBH I also expected Rafa to play way better and was really dissapointed with his performance...I also failed to see the strength in his shots and the determination as well until the end of the second set...The beauty is in the eye of a beholder...I really expected Rafa to play better...his backhand was off most of the match and he had to play slices to compensate for it...Ferrer exploited those slices and won numerous points on it...that really got me worried...However, I admire Rafa's fighting spirit and that is what I love about him...obviously Rafa needs to improve and that is where we all let's quit negative-positive like attitudes and cheer for our favorite boy today...I love that guy, I adore him and I know that we all here want the best for him...let's calm down and unite in support to our hero!

Vamos Rafa!

natashao , 5/11/13 12:26 PM

I second that proposal.

ed251137 , 5/11/13 12:37 PM

sanju , 5/11/13 11:24 AM


rafaisthebest , 5/11/13 12:43 PM

Peace :-)

Our ways of reacting to Rafa may differ, however the final outcome is we all want the best for him.

sanju , 5/11/13 1:22 PM

^^True, looking forward to today's match!

rafaisthebest , 5/11/13 1:25 PM

Toni on the time warnings: It's Rafael's fault. He just has to play faster. And on top of that, he talks! I told him to play, talk later
Toni: If Rafael doesn't make that incredible shot at 15-40, I think he would have been cooked.

Toni: Since we've been in Madrid, Rafael's feeling the ball. Much better than in Monaco or Barcelona, But he's still not like before >>Toni(cont): Normally, when he takes control of a match, he keeps it till the end. He's consistent that way. Here, he made too many backhand>Toni(cont): errors, and sometimes he stopped moving his legs. We're not behind on Roland-Garros, but, on his movement and concentration>

sanju , 5/11/13 1:35 PM

Rome draw..And this is exactly how I suspect the RG draw will be

Bottom half QF: Del Potro - Murray, Tsonga - Federer

Top half QF: Djokovic-Berdych, Ferrer-Nadal.

sanju , 5/11/13 1:38 PM

So its okay Rafans. Toni has not spelt any doom yet and usually hes a

sanju , 5/11/13 1:42 PM

sanju , 5/11/13 1:35 PM

Thanks for this, I value Uncle Toni's insights.

1. I agree with him on the time violation yesterday and the way Rafa reacted to it. He let it get to him and that affected his concentration. What surprised me how long Rafa let the anger linger. Normally Rafa is very good at turning anger into positive energy, yesterday he let it fester and it cost him dearly.

Also, I thought the Umpire got intimidated by Rafa after Rafa's reaction because Rafa continued taking his sweet time I thought and the Umpire did nothing! I don't agree with the stupid rule but you cannot change it during a match so Toni is right, play faster and talk later, although in this case the talking helped because the Umpire backed off, hehehe!!

2. So the verdict is in: it's movement and concentration Rafa has to work on. Thank you Uncle Toni for pointing this out. It's the lack of movement yesterday that got me all agitated, good to know it was a valid observation although I then jumped to the wrong conclusion that the lack of movement was to do with a festering injury. So, no injury to worry about, he just needs match play.


rafaisthebest , 5/11/13 2:00 PM

But a thing I have observed..Rafa has slightly dipped in form after IW..I expected him to get stronger after IW on his beloved clay..but his form has deteriorated a bit. Not sure if its the pressure of always doing well on clay?

sanju , 5/11/13 2:08 PM

He has played 31 matches..thats enough match play..I think its match toughness and ease of tentativeness

Just look at all his key matches..against Gulbis IW started slow, lost 1st set nd was down in 2nd, same against Delpo, against Berdy had trouble closing the match in IW, same against Tsonga in MC wer he let a huge lead just slip, against Nico in Barcelon final started slow, same against Ferrer yest and could not close out 2nd set , against Djoko in 2nd set in MC could not close out 2nd set

I think its more match toughness rather than match play and hes tentative a bit on closing moments

sanju , 5/11/13 2:13 PM

Rome draw:

Are the Italians mad? How can they have the best 2 Italians play one another in the first round? The winner of that encounter meets Rafa in the 2nd round, tough first match for Rafa. After that potential banana-skin, it should be plain sailing for Rafa right up to another appointment with Ferru.

sanju, Rafa said the long break after IW set him back a little because he could not train as much as he would have liked because of treatment sessions.

rafaisthebest , 5/11/13 2:16 PM

Fed could meet his baby in the Qtr final.

nadline , 5/11/13 2:44 PM

RT @linzsports: "How is one supposed to react to this Rome draw? I'm going with laughter."

rafaisthebest , 5/11/13 3:10 PM

^^^^^Too, too funny.

ed251137 , 5/11/13 3:12 PM

The RG draw would probably be more funny. Federer will laugh for 20 long minutes.

holdserve , 5/11/13 3:18 PM

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