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  • Djokovic kicks off Madrid campaign against Dimitrov

    5/7/13 3:03 AM | Ricky Dimon
    Djokovic kicks off Madrid campaign against Dimitrov Novak Djokovic's bid for a second consecutive clay-court Masters title will begin on Tuesday in Madrid. Up first for Djokovic is Grigor Dimitrov.

    Novak Djokovic and Grigor Dimitrov will going head-to-head for the third time in their careers and for the second time this season when they collide in round two of the Mutua Madrid Open on Tuesday. Djokovic has won both of their previous encounters in straight sets; 6-3, 6-2 last fall in Shanghai and 7-6(4), 6-1 two months ago at the Indian Wells Masters.

    Dimitrov is in the midst of a breakout 2013 campaign that continued on Monday with a straight-set dismissal of wild card Javier Marti. The 21-year-old Bulgarian is 15-9 for the season and he is up to a career-high ranking of No. 28 in the world. Dimitrov finished runner-up to Andy Murray in Brisbane and he started his clay-court swing with a quarterfinal run in Monte-Carlo.

    Djokovic, coming off a first-round bye, is back in action following a triumph at the Monte-Carlo Masters--where he ended Rafael Nadal's reign as champion. The top-ranked Serb appears to be back on track following a relatively disappointing stretch at the hard-court Masters events, where he suffered his only two setbacks of the season (to Juan Martin Del Potro in the Indian Wells semifinals and to Tommy Haas in the Miami fourth round).

    This is not the easiest of early-round draws for the No. 1 seed, as Dimitrov is already one of the most talented players on tour. But based on their past history and Djokovic's recent return to top form, a straight-setter has to be expected.

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The crowd pulling for Dimitrov in the early-goings...

cherylmurray , 5/7/13 8:23 PM


I am watching this now on the tennis channel. Is this live or a replay? So far it's 2-all in the first set.

Nativenewyorker , 5/7/13 8:27 PM


On the upper right of the screen it says "Tennis Live". That should give you a hint.

chr18 , 5/7/13 8:33 PM


It is indeed live!!

Novak hates when the crowd roots against him, but unfortunately for Dimitrov, it is when he plays his best tennis!!!!

Monalysa , 5/7/13 8:34 PM


Whats this you break me, i'll break you back business? Neither one can hold serve......is it the clay?!!

Monalysa , 5/7/13 8:36 PM


And Novak gets a time violation warning. I think I heard the chair say "29 seconds is too long".

cherylmurray , 5/7/13 8:41 PM


Now Nole arguing with the bernardes for not telling him he was taking too long. If the ATP is going to enforce that rule, they should give the players a way to know how long they've taken. Nole's right.

cherylmurray , 5/7/13 8:43 PM


Right on cue, Baby Fed about to self-destruct....

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 8:46 PM


How is it that Novak does not know he is taking too long? He has been playing tennis long enough to be able to tell!!!

Monalysa , 5/7/13 8:46 PM


Dimitrov acquitting himself well so far. Good tennis from Baby Fed.

cherylmurray , 5/7/13 8:49 PM


Normal service resumes: Baby Fed chokes.....

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 9:07 PM


You could almost smell that coming, couldn't you?

cherylmurray , 5/7/13 9:08 PM


As Rafa said, whoever agreed to the enforcement of the 25 secs rule with no discretion by the umpire is stupid.

nadline , 5/7/13 9:09 PM


^^ it should be noted that Nadal has done a superb job of picking up his pace. I must say that I'm duly impressed.

cherylmurray , 5/7/13 9:11 PM


Seems Novak has his hands full today!!

Monalysa , 5/7/13 9:13 PM


Wow. Baby Fed keeping his head. This match is a fun one.

cherylmurray , 5/7/13 9:15 PM


Wtf?

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 9:15 PM


Set Dimitrov. I can't believe it!

cherylmurray , 5/7/13 9:16 PM


Thats right!!!.............................Baby Fed indeed................Sharapova must have given him some tips......haha!!!!

Monalysa , 5/7/13 9:17 PM


1st set, Baby Fed

Baby Fed could teach his Daddy Fed a thing or two.

nadline , 5/7/13 9:17 PM


Is it that Dimi is playing that well or Novak is off.............rusty like?

Monalysa , 5/7/13 9:18 PM


This is why I am relaxed about the prospect of a Rafa-Novak quarter-final at RG, Novak is not at his sharpest in the early rounds.............

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 9:19 PM


Okay, fun's over. Next two sets............63, 62 Novak

Monalysa , 5/7/13 9:20 PM


^^^Just to divert a bit, Rafa played appallingly in the MC final that was more the

nadline , 5/7/13 9:20 PM


Dimitrov is playing quite well, but Djokovic has been curiously loose on some of the big points.

cherylmurray , 5/7/13 9:21 PM


Wow! First set to Dimitrov. He hit a wicked dtl forehand to get to set point. So he kept it together. Now let's see if he can keep it up.

Monalysa,

Yes, Dimi is playing that well. So is Nole but he missed some shots that he would normally make. I give Dimi a lot of credit for keeping it together after Nole broke him to take it to a tb. Well done!

Nativenewyorker , 5/7/13 9:22 PM


RT @RobKoenigTennis: "Dimitrov is 14-0 this year when he wins the first set. So here we go. #atp"

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 9:22 PM


Dimi is gaining confidence in his game.

nadline , 5/7/13 9:22 PM


cherylmurray, 5/7/13 9:21 PM,

Sorry, I didn't see your post up yet when I wrote pretty much the same thing about Djokovic being loose and missing some shots.

Nativenewyorker , 5/7/13 9:23 PM


My money is still on Novak winning.......and on Dimitrov cramping somewhere between the 2nd and 3rd set.......

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 9:25 PM


Its true what they say about these breaks.........not necessarily a good thing!!

Monalysa , 5/7/13 9:25 PM


I wonder why the Corona signs aren't up on the net...

cherylmurray , 5/7/13 9:28 PM


I think Nole will prevail in the end.

nadline , 5/7/13 9:28 PM


Nole's backhand is not good today but Dimitrov is playing great. Good match.

danica , 5/7/13 9:30 PM


This would have been a worthy quarterfinal match. Too bad for these two it comes in the second round.

cherylmurray , 5/7/13 9:32 PM


@ RIBT...........dont ask for that..........cramping

Monalysa , 5/7/13 9:32 PM


One would think Nole can pull this out, but right now Dimitrov is playing some great tennis. That forehand has been a real weapon.

Nativenewyorker , 5/7/13 9:32 PM


@Cheryl
I agree, it's incongruous to have these 2 play each other in the 2nd round.

nadline , 5/7/13 9:33 PM


Some stats:

RT @juanjo_sports "It's not surprising that Dimitrov had 18 UFEs in that 1st set. If anything, that's low. Djokovic, though, had 18 UFEs, too. 13 (!!!) BH UFEs. Not the greatest sign for the man with arguably the world's best backhand to be donating 72% of his UFEs in a set via BH UFEs."

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 9:34 PM


I must admit, Dimi is really holding his won.........how many break point chances has Novak missed?

Monalysa , 5/7/13 9:34 PM


Is it just me, or does Nole look to be...tripping or something today?

WHAT A SHOT!

cherylmurray , 5/7/13 9:35 PM


I don't wish ill on Dimitrov, @Mona, I just get frustrated that all his good work invariably gets undone by his lack of good conditioning.....

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 9:37 PM


^^^ and by tripping, I meant actually tripping, not the "dropping acid" kind of tripping. :)

cherylmurray , 5/7/13 9:37 PM


I dont think Nole is taking the Dimi-supporting crowd too well!

Monalysa , 5/7/13 9:38 PM


That line call was a howler by Bernades,

nadline , 5/7/13 9:39 PM


I know RIBT.............i would hate to see him cramping too.........it would be quite unfortunate!

Monalysa , 5/7/13 9:39 PM


Oh no, not you as well, Cheryl, the commies are speculating that Nole's is not there emotionally, whatever that means. C'mon, give Dimi some credit!

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 9:40 PM


danica, you're right. His backhand is inconsistent today. Too many errors on that side right now.

cherylmurray , 5/7/13 9:41 PM


I would think Nole would be used to the crowd supporting his opponent. This guy Dimitrov came into the match as the underdog but also as a young opponent who has the potential to cause real trouble.

I don't think the crowd is what's bothering Nole. I think it's the way Dimitrov is playing.

Nativenewyorker , 5/7/13 9:41 PM


The commies on the tennis channel are talking about these uncharacteristic errors from Nole.

Nativenewyorker , 5/7/13 9:43 PM


not surprised at all, was very much looking forward to this match...dimitrov surely has the game style to trouble novak. He should use the sliced backhand more often here..esp the short ones..novak doing what he needs to -hanging tough-

vamosrafa , 5/7/13 9:43 PM


Nole definitely "off" his game but some terrific play from Grigor.

deuce , 5/7/13 9:46 PM


RT @christophclarey: "MT @pmouratoglou #grigordimitrov really has level now to beat the top 4 guys. Just a question of lasting long enough physically /emotionally "

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 9:46 PM


What is it about the slice that troubles Novak?

We all have a bad day at the office...................this day is Novak's

Monalysa , 5/7/13 9:47 PM


The way Dimitrov is sliding on that clay is a joy to watch.........

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 9:48 PM


On other news..............Isner is out!!!

Monalysa , 5/7/13 9:49 PM


............and Novak is broken......again!!!

Monalysa , 5/7/13 9:52 PM


RT @juanjo_sports: "This is fascinating. Steph is the best! RT @TrudelSteph: @juanjo_sports As of 3-2 Dim, distance for Djokovic is 1791M and 2011M for Dimitrov. As I thought, Djokovic is hell bent on breaking Dimitrov physically. Making him run as much as possible. Not sure it's a good idea."

i.e. Djokovic is counting on Dimi to cramp.........

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 9:53 PM


here comes the ankle..

Shireling , 5/7/13 9:57 PM


oh dear!!

Monalysa , 5/7/13 9:58 PM


This match does not need a retirement, but on the other hand, is it worth risking that ankle with RG just around the corner?

Bummer....

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 10:00 PM


This is tough for Dimitrov, because it's 30-40 on his serve.

Nativenewyorker , 5/7/13 10:00 PM


Retirement......really..........oh gosh.............I really wanted Dimi to win this fair and square!!! Life's really NOT fair!!!!

Monalysa , 5/7/13 10:01 PM


doesn't look as if he's thinking of retiring

Shireling , 5/7/13 10:02 PM


Monalysa, Nole hasn't retired.

nadline , 5/7/13 10:02 PM


Dimitrov was slightly better throughout the match. He was moving better than Nole. I have to give him that. Kudos to him. Let's see how this progresses now. I wish Nole can just finish the match. On the other side, this may not be good for Dimitrov who is losing momentum.

danica , 5/7/13 10:04 PM


at this point he deserves the benefit of the doubt..

Shireling , 5/7/13 10:04 PM


Gumby has recovered!!!

#DejaVuAllOverAgain

Conspirator , 5/7/13 10:05 PM


Thank you ankle!!!

Monalysa , 5/7/13 10:07 PM


how about that! :)
it's amazing what you can do with a few bandages

Shireling , 5/7/13 10:07 PM


Djokovic is so lucky to still be in this match, net cord gives him a break back. He'll go on to win it now.

willmw101 , 5/7/13 10:08 PM


Conspirator, are you doubting that he hurts?

This audience is utterly disgusting.

danica , 5/7/13 10:08 PM


Neil Harman (@NeilHarmanTimes)
Posted at 7 May, 2013 5:26 PM on Twitter
"That could have been a very nasty injury to Djokovic. He stumbles, buries head in rigging at back of court. What drama"

Drama indeed. Not impressed.

#Gamesmanship?

Conspirator , 5/7/13 10:08 PM


I think you're right danica, the momentum has swung Novak's way...........

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 10:09 PM


Of course......thanks to me ankle!!!!

Monalysa , 5/7/13 10:10 PM


Match gone. Djokovic wins. Poor dimitrov.

willmw101 , 5/7/13 10:10 PM


Finally a good backhand down the line.

Applause from Nole for Dimitrov. Please take note, it's NOT just when he is winning.

danica , 5/7/13 10:11 PM


His ankle looks fine to me right now.

#PlayingWell

Conspirator , 5/7/13 10:12 PM


All they did was change the strapping, how did that make the ankle better?

nadline , 5/7/13 10:12 PM


if he continues with this type of attitude he will lose respect. It's starting to be too obvious.

Shireling , 5/7/13 10:12 PM


*headscratch* Djokovic is sure moving around like nothing just happened. I am confused..................what do they use in those MTOs?

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 10:13 PM


Even the most ardent Djokovic fans have to admit that Djokovic was v tired before the nearly ten minute injury time out and now his ankle is absolutely fine and he's not tired anymore. He is a massive drama queen, not saying his ankle isn't a bit sore, but just that he milks drama for all it's worth.

willmw101 , 5/7/13 10:14 PM


if no-one else will I'll go ahead and say it, he faked the time out to disrupt Dimitrov's momentum. It's pretty clear.

Shireling , 5/7/13 10:14 PM


RT @NeilHarmanTimes: "Djokovic breaks, Dimitrov slips and slides. Nothing too much wrong with Novak's movement after having ankle strapped. 4-3 "

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 10:15 PM


Nole wasn't moving good throughout the match. To me, it looked as if he was testing his stability and the court. They both slipped quite a few times.

danica , 5/7/13 10:16 PM


@ Shireling............................lol!!!

Monalysa , 5/7/13 10:16 PM


@ Danica....................it took Nole almost two sets to test his mobilty?!! C'mon!! He is being outplayed!!!!

Monalysa , 5/7/13 10:17 PM


Commies, "ankle appears to be 100%"

Whatever it is they give these players at MTOs, I want some too......

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 10:18 PM


Your ankle is sore and you are still hitting your foot with your racquet.

nadline , 5/7/13 10:19 PM


if your ankle is sore and you're wrong footed like he's just been... you feel it

Shireling , 5/7/13 10:19 PM


You just know Djokovic will go on to win this match and then all we'll hear from his camp is oh the ankle this and ooh the ankle this. Just like Monte Carlo when no one actually cares about a tennis player twisting his ankle... People do it everyday and yet we're supposed to act like its a crisis when a tennis player does it and then moans about it for weeks.

willmw101 , 5/7/13 10:21 PM


Whatever the outcome, I feel beyond a doubt Dimi has given an excellent account of himself!!! Dont know about the other guy, though!

Monalysa , 5/7/13 10:21 PM


Dimitrov is cramping..........

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 10:22 PM


Oh my goodness, what is going on with Dimitrov?! Gosh, he needs to work more on this. How is he expecting grand slam wins if he can't play long and grueling matches?
:(

danica , 5/7/13 10:23 PM


he cramps and plays on, the other guy fakes and takes a long MTO

Shireling , 5/7/13 10:23 PM


Dimitrov is a joke, honestly.......wtf

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 10:24 PM


Again with the cramping? This guy has to do something about his conditioning. He's going to get treatment on the changeover. Nole was staring at the umpire as though he wanted some kind of call because Dimitrov bent down as Nole's shot sailed past him. What was that all about?

Nativenewyorker , 5/7/13 10:24 PM


Wasn't there a change in the rules about cramping? I don't think he can get treatment for it.

Nativenewyorker , 5/7/13 10:25 PM


Game over

willmw101 , 5/7/13 10:26 PM


RIBT...............u did call it.......didnt you?..........Its all your fault!!!............lol!!!

Monalysa , 5/7/13 10:26 PM


Oh please Will, Shireling, Mona... and the rest of the doubting Thomases. If it was Rafa instead of Nole, you wouldn't be singing the same song.

danica , 5/7/13 10:27 PM


Rafa would never do this danica. Only Djokovic pulls this crap.

willmw101 , 5/7/13 10:28 PM


The crowd whistled when Nole hit that drop shot because he knew Dimitrov is cramping. Dimitrov is simply going to have to get into better condition if he wants to beat the top players. This happened when he played Rafa at MC.

Nativenewyorker , 5/7/13 10:28 PM


Dimitrov is done for.

nadline , 5/7/13 10:28 PM


it it were Rafa I'd say exactly the same. Nole's faking is disgusting to the game.

Shireling , 5/7/13 10:28 PM


Such a shame. Djokovic doesn't even remotely deserve this match. Awful gamesmanship.

willmw101 , 5/7/13 10:29 PM


@ Danica........if Rafa was being outplayed, I would be extremenly upset with HIM and not with his cramping opponent bcos I would much rather Rafa win a game outright, and not based on his opponent's inability to play due to cramps!!

But I must say, whats going on with Dimi is quite unfortunate.....................he was doing so so well!

Monalysa , 5/7/13 10:30 PM


The bottom line is that Dimitrov has to get into better shape. Cramping after two sets isn't going to get it done. He knows that you have to be able to hang with the top players.

The crowd just keeps whistling at Nole. They seem to think that it was gamesmanship.

Nativenewyorker , 5/7/13 10:31 PM


Dimitrov has completely outplayed Djokovic for the majority of this match. You gotta wonder if dimitrov would have cramped if Djokovic hadn't taken that ridiculous time out.

willmw101 , 5/7/13 10:32 PM


You'll have to excuse me, I gotta go. Will read you later.
I don't think he was faking.

danica , 5/7/13 10:32 PM


People, stop feeling sorry for Dimitrov. How long has this cramping drama been going on with him, why hasn't he sorted it out? He cannot afford a sports nutritionist?

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 10:32 PM


Well, all in all, its not Nole's fault that Dimi is cramping! But this game is just too too weird!!

Monalysa , 5/7/13 10:32 PM


can it be any clearer that it was?

Shireling , 5/7/13 10:33 PM


this is starting to look like a WWF match

Shireling , 5/7/13 10:35 PM


GAME SET MATCH DJOKOVIC

willmw101 , 5/7/13 10:35 PM


Guys, why did you chase Danica? When Rafa was being accused of gamesmanship...........we did not like it and it was the same scenario with Petzner! So let's give Nole the benefit of the doubt!

Monalysa , 5/7/13 10:36 PM


no, sorry Monalysa
there's no doubt about it. His ankle might be sore, I don't question that and he might have even strained it a bit but it clearly doesn't hinder him in any way and he used the MTO to his benefit.
If you don't see it it's because you don't want to

Shireling , 5/7/13 10:39 PM


More net cords for Djokovic. This is going to be the most underserved win the history of tennis.

willmw101 , 5/7/13 10:40 PM


Djokovic swearing at Spanish crowd. Real classy. Disgusting.

willmw101 , 5/7/13 10:43 PM


well, I've seen enough.
I'll read the headlines tomorrow.
(so angry, somebody should start to take action now about the Nr 1's faking. Some ban or fine, I don't know)

Shireling , 5/7/13 10:44 PM


Sorry but cramping in the second set of a match isn't going to get it done. Whatever Nole did with the ankle, Dimitrov has to be prepared to go the distance.

Dimitrov breaks Nole in the first game of the third set? Now he's battling on his own serve. I am cheering for him, but this kid has to work on the cramps issue.

Nativenewyorker , 5/7/13 10:48 PM


I was enjoying the match and then.........poof! What a joke....

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 10:49 PM


Hey it's not over yet. Dimitrov up 2-0 in the third set!

Nativenewyorker , 5/7/13 10:50 PM


Not impressed with the crowd. Reminds me of the French at RG.

#Classless

Conspirator , 5/7/13 10:51 PM


This is not the kind of drama I look for in a tennis match, sorry...................

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 10:51 PM


@radosko: ''SUCK MY ****'' , words from the world No1 to the crowd as he sits after taking the set #rolemodel

Disgusting from the Serbian. Terrible example to the kids.

willmw101 , 5/7/13 10:52 PM


^^^oh pish posh, you talk such rubbish wmetc
Don't be so bitter, it's not like your married to Rafa is it?
Why get your knickers bunched up like this, bad for the circulation no?
That's Nadline's position ;)
turned this on and...well slightly surprised to say the least
The crowd are pathetic, cheering Novaks faults.
Almost Parisien non?
Novak not at his best but 'little' Griggy stepping up to the plate, great stuff.
And look at all the Nadalsters here, clucking away!
With the one lone Novak fans putting on a brave show, well until she was run out of town that is.
Don't any of you ever try and do this on an Andy thread......
It's only the 2nd round in the 3rd and we are over 120 comments Already
So revealing lol
Fun, fun, fun

Twinge , 5/7/13 10:57 PM


^^^^

Is there something wrong with Nadal fans commenting on a Dimitrov/Nole matchg? Is it shocking that we actually watch matches with players who are not Rafa?

I like tennis and this match has been great to watch.

Nativenewyorker , 5/7/13 10:59 PM


^^What have we done? We came on here to be entertained and instead we are being shown an abortion, are we supposed to be amused?

Tut, tut.....

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 11:00 PM


Yeah right it's because it's a 'great match'
Okay then, if you say so
Lol

Twinge , 5/7/13 11:00 PM


Just a matter of time until Djokovic breaks back and dimitrov starts cramping again.

willmw101 , 5/7/13 11:01 PM


Like to see little Griggy prevail
Hes earned it!
Yes sir he has!

Twinge , 5/7/13 11:02 PM


Bad line calls, Houdini injuries, cramps, on-court swearing............Oh Lordy!

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 11:03 PM


Oh Dear! An anti-Rafa fan is in the building.

nadline , 5/7/13 11:03 PM


Oh dear 100 anti Novak fans are in the building!

Twinge , 5/7/13 11:04 PM


Twinge, 5/7/13 11:00 PM,

Really? If I say so? So you think it's a crappy match? Or have you even been watching at all? You are kind of late to the party but managed to get the usual digs in at Rafa fans.

Nativenewyorker , 5/7/13 11:07 PM


Even the crowd is bored now, not booing any more!

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 11:07 PM


Twinge has just come in from the pub. He is not thinking straight.

nadline , 5/7/13 11:09 PM


Still cannot believe that Djokovic was screaming "SUCK MY DI*K". What number 1 has ever said something that disgusting and classless.

willmw101 , 5/7/13 11:09 PM


Oh boo hoo
NNY there's already one Nadline here and that is one too much in my view
Where's your sense of humour?
As for the match, a slow motion car crash is how I would describe it.

Twinge , 5/7/13 11:10 PM


In hindsight, I think Danica is right and Nole deserves the benefit of the doubt.

However, as a Rafan who wants Rafa to go to No. 1 in the race...

#VamosBabyFed

Conspirator , 5/7/13 11:12 PM


Twinge, I'm anti-everyone except Rafa. That will make it easy for you.

nadline , 5/7/13 11:13 PM


Well Conpirator if the likes of dimitrov get the job done for him he's got a shot for sure.
Did he twist his ankle again?!

Twinge , 5/7/13 11:14 PM


I must agree with Twingey here.........this is a true abortion.. I am betting my holiday villa Dimitrov will start cramping again now at 5-3!

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 11:14 PM


Where do you summer if you're from Mauritius ritb?
Iceland?
Crowd getting rowdy again....

Twinge , 5/7/13 11:15 PM


Well deserved win by Dimitrov. It would have been a travesty of justice had he lost.

nadline , 5/7/13 11:16 PM


Unbelievable! Dimitrov wins, deserves it.............

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 11:16 PM


the best actor lost

Shireling , 5/7/13 11:17 PM


Poor Novak did a muzzy!
Those creeps are booing Novak as he leaves
Such class
Et Voila! big ups to the Grigster
A future...top 15?
Lol

Twinge , 5/7/13 11:18 PM


Major congrats Dimitrov, to win despite all. And yes, he should address the cramping issue obviously.

I agree that Novak should not drop his standard of behaviour to what it used to be years ago. Not becoming at all. What does he want to be remembered for years from now?

chlorostoma , 5/7/13 11:19 PM


did you see how in those last two match points he was already shaking his left foot when it hadn't bothered him during the entire 3rd set? hilarious , so glad he's lost today, he didn't deserve to win this.

Shireling , 5/7/13 11:19 PM


So, what does that make Dimitrov, the New New King of Clay? I mean, Djokovic was crowned the New King of Clay by some numpties after beating Rafa at MC......

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 11:20 PM


Grigor has arrived!

nadline , 5/7/13 11:21 PM


sorry, I meant 2nd set

Shireling , 5/7/13 11:21 PM


'Twinge, I'm anti-everyone except Rafa. That will make it easy for you..'

NO!!!
;-)
Rejoice everyone Rafa will assuredly get another clay masters!
But weht Novak?

Twinge , 5/7/13 11:21 PM


The surface and the altitude is unfavourable almost alien.
Rome is much more like RG.
That will tell us more

Twinge , 5/7/13 11:23 PM


I wonder how many minutes Fed will laugh for.

nadline , 5/7/13 11:23 PM


Twinge that shows how little you know about tennis. Rome is nothing like RG. Its much lower bouncing and faster.

willmw101 , 5/7/13 11:26 PM


Where is Fedkovic? I am looking forward to his analysis on this turn of events.

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 11:26 PM


I might know nothing about tennis but I still make more sense than you ever do
Because let's face it you're not very bright are you?
Rome is def more like RG than Madrid is at least.

Twinge , 5/7/13 11:28 PM


Fedkovic has changed his name to Fedmitrov.

nadline , 5/7/13 11:28 PM


lol nadline

Shireling , 5/7/13 11:29 PM




Fedkovic has changed his name to Fedmitrov.

nadline , 5/7/13 11:28 PM


Hehehehe! Too funny!

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 11:30 PM


I think Djokovic should take 7 months off to sort his ankle out.

nadline , 5/7/13 11:31 PM


I agree with Twinge that the crowd was disrespectful with Novak - but he hasn't won Madrid many times has he? unlike Rafa at RG

Shireling , 5/7/13 11:31 PM


I think Djokovic should take 7 months off to sort his ankle out'

Good one lol
You're on form tonight,
Have we been at cooking brandy again?

Twinge , 5/7/13 11:34 PM


Rafa should learn to wrongfoot Novak like that.
At some point he even looked at his team in despair !

Shireling , 5/7/13 11:38 PM


Shireling , 5/7/13 11:31 PM

Karma is truly a biatch.

Remember how Novak and his team celebrated beating Rafa at Madrid 2011? Cavorting on top of a car in a manner which can only be described as disrespectful? Maybe the Madridistas remember that, no?

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 11:38 PM


Dimitrov destroyed djokovic. And now djokovic is already making excuses in the presser.

willmw101 , 5/7/13 11:40 PM


When Djokovic comes back after 7 months sorting his ankle out and gets beaten in a final on hardcourt when far from 100% yet then whoever will beat him will be crowned King of Hardcourt.

chlorostoma , 5/7/13 11:40 PM


Nobody chased me out, I just had to go and pick my younger son up from school. I didn't see the TB and I didn't see the third set. Great job Dimitrov, he deserved the win from what I've seen in the first two sets. Some bad decisions on Nole's part in this match, but hey, that's the game.

I didn't see and hear the swearing at the audience but I understand it, they were totally and absolutely awful, disgusting and anything horrible you can think of. What manners!! Yuck! Nole was provoked, he maybe shouldn't have said what he supposedly said, but in the heat of the moment, it's understandable.

Gotta go now pick the older one up now ;).

danica , 5/7/13 11:41 PM


The thing about Novak....
I think is he doesn't like things to be too varied, too unpredictable.
So dimitrov
Federer
Murray
The wind cause him real problems
Players with ah more direct games...less so

Twinge , 5/7/13 11:42 PM


Because let's face it you're not very bright are you?

Twinge, 5/7/13 11:28 PM

Oh right, so now you are insulting someone's intelligence on an internet forum with no substantive evidence. Thats never been done before. Well done you.

willmw101 , 5/7/13 11:43 PM


The thing about Novak....
I think is he doesn't like things to be too varied, too unpredictable.
So dimitrov
Federer
Murray
The wind cause him real problems
Players with ah more direct games...less so
Twinge, 5/7/13 11:42 PM

Oh yeah Twinge the H2H's really back that up dont they. LOL. Who is this guy? He knows nothing!

willmw101 , 5/7/13 11:44 PM


ritb, 5/7/13 11:38 PM

Yes, I remember.
More than anything they just want Novak to lose

Shireling , 5/7/13 11:45 PM


So who sucked whose whatsits now? Sorry I am doing a Fed right now.......

#Laughings

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 11:45 PM


Dimitrov destroyed djokovic...'

Huh?
See people, brains more important than tennis knowledge.....

Twinge , 5/7/13 11:46 PM


it's a tall order to keep Novak guessing and Dimitrov did it today, helped by a huge serve and some acting

Shireling , 5/7/13 11:48 PM


My point still stands wmetc!
And it is supported in the match ups too
Exhibit A tonight

Twinge , 5/7/13 11:49 PM


Oh please, what variety! This match was a joke, there is no way this Dimitrov would have survived Rafa. After winning the 2nd set, where did Djokovic go? He had momentum, Dimitrov was cramping and ........wtf? Why did Djokovic stop drop shotting Dimi? The man was on the rack, ready for the taking, instead, Djokovic thought he would work him over with long rallies, wtf?...............the man was already tender!

*headshake*

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 11:51 PM


I think there should be some acting awards given at the end of the season to the best amongst the nominees. Today we saw some outstanding performance(s)

Shireling , 5/7/13 11:51 PM


RT @tomtebbutt: "Craziness of Dimitrov-Djokovic is explained by one thing / tennis is played in the head! Djoko thot wounded bear was done, let up in 3rd set "

Exactement.........

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 11:54 PM


Dimitrov will be out tomorrow.

pennster , 5/7/13 11:54 PM


Well I suppose the variety this evening was more in the side acts.
If your posts are accurate.
But dimitrov does have a lot of variety, he's fun to watch if you like that sort of thing
Which I do.

Twinge , 5/7/13 11:55 PM


If Rafa wins Madrid he could get to RG as #1 in the Race to London................

rafaisthebest , 5/7/13 11:56 PM


....and when I remember how I was criticizing disgusting crowd on RG, because os Rafa... Silly me...
Ok... few points lost, more time for recovery. Concentrate on Rome and RG.
Celebrate now Rafans, you have good reason!

zare , 5/7/13 11:57 PM


I think Novak actually doesn't have bones in his ankle, he has ball bearings that need replacing from time to time, the strapping is just an act

Shireling , 5/7/13 11:57 PM


danica,
it's a good thing Novak did not win his first attempt at RG and in the process (semi) defeated the darling of Paris. It's a good thing he didn't go on to defeat same darling of Paris every year for a number of years after that in the RG finals, and keep denying the career slam.

For if he did, he would have received a lot of hatred from the Parisian crowd, from the first year onwards, simply for elevating the RG standards to Borg's level, and for, Goodness Forbid!, defeating the darling of Paris. Far more hatred that Novak received today, ostensibly for said incident of two years ago. And he would have also incurred forevermore the hatred of many thousands (but a minority) of fans of said darling. Not the usual fans, just those prone to hatred and such.

And if our readings of his gamesmanship today (if that's what it was) are accurate then perhaps some of the crowd's response came from that as well.

So sorry, today I don't have that much sympathy for Novak, who generally I grew to like quite a bit as if several years ago when he matured a bit.

chlorostoma , 5/7/13 11:59 PM


Zare, I remember when Sharapova was getting booed at RG and she screamed at them....Allez up your effing azz.
The crowd is just anti Novak since he beat Rafa at MC.

pennster , 5/8/13 12:01 AM


@ Pennester..........is that all?! Come on, now!

I left work believing that Novak would run away with this. Cant understand how Dimi was able to do it with cramping and all..............cuddos to him!!!!

Hope the upsets dont continue!!!!

Monalysa , 5/8/13 12:01 AM


Rafa would have smoked djokovic if he had made it to the final. Nadal is worries about no one on clay. Jeez djokovic beats rafa at monte carlo and apparently everything changes, nothing has changed.

willmw101 , 5/8/13 12:02 AM


'darling of Paris'?
Nadal has never had the approval of the French.
He''s gained their respect by beating everyone who came along, including every FR player. This respect they quickly forget though once the match starts.

Shireling , 5/8/13 12:03 AM


^^^^He's referring to Fed
The old one....

Twinge , 5/8/13 12:07 AM


I dont normally like to revel in anyone's misery, but in a way its a good thing this happened so that some of Novak fans can come down a few rung or two.........not so much you Danica.

I did warn Fedkovic that he should not celebrate too much!!! There is still so much tennis to be played!

Monalysa , 5/8/13 12:09 AM


weird match indeed...I think Nole will not be too upset about losing this match, not many points to defend anyway...If his ankle really hurts he will have time to recover...But I don't think it's the ankle though...Nole was not playing well today, period! The crowd resembles of the disgusting Parisian one, which I generally hate to even mention. However, I don't think this today had anything to do with Rafa...the crowd simply disliked the fact that Nole took the time out and then went on moving well and wining again. Familiar scenario?drama queen?I am honestly sick of that?The strapping does not make the ankle better, that much we all know...anyway, I think Nole will be more upset about his outrage and swearing than losing the match itself...Nole is No1 and should behave like one...he should have never let himself be provoked like that...that was not the right way to go?He will feel sorry for it?he probably already does?
I think Rafa's fans are thrilled to see Nole's weaknesses which Rafa can explore and shouldn't be blamed for it?I still did not see the MC final although I have it taped...I only know what people who saw it told me and that is: Rafa played terrible and deserved to lose?Novak was outplayed today and deserved to lose...no hard feelings pals...:)

natashao , 5/8/13 12:54 AM


Amen to that, natashao..........by the way where have you been?...........long time!!

Monalysa , 5/8/13 1:03 AM


Delighted

rafakid , 5/8/13 1:05 AM


I got home in time to see art of sets 2 and 3, and IMO Dimi outplayed djoker. Had it not been for the cramping, this would have been a sweeter win for Dimi.

Djoker's antics are nothing new, but I'm wondering how long is this ankle issue going to last? The ankle was fine after he won MC, and he's had time off from playing to rest it and be ready for Madrid, so what's the story now? Is the ankle not back to normal, as djoker and his camp have stated, or has his sliding aggravated the *lost* bone (since it was termed "displaced)? I hope that it shows up soon. I must admit I'd be the first one to feel badly about an athlete's or anyone's injury, but I've always been truly baffled by djoker's injuries and on-court histrionics. How could anyone be in excruciating pain for a few minutes and thenstart playing like superman in the next 5 minutes? I don't get it.

I see some are getting down on dimi for having cramps, why? He should be commended for sticking it out and not retiring, giving the win to djoker. Would that scenario be better? I'm against players retiring when the match is so close to its finish line, and dimi did the right thing, hung tough, and was rewarded for his efforts. that's just my opinion.

Djoker's cursing at the crowd is nothing new, but he gets away with a lot coz he speaks in his native tongue, which the umpires do not understand. i hope those who like to diss Fed have taken note of the djoker's histrionics and semantics.

The tournament has taken on a new urn of events with djoker's loss, and it's now opened to door for other players to win the titl, and making things a lot more interesting. Good for Dimi!

scoretracker , 5/8/13 1:34 AM


Nole had a bad step and aggravated that ankle again. He needed to take the MTO. Maybe you didn't see it Scoretracker. That' s why all the talk about ankle. Otherwise, it wouldn't be a factor in this match. As for the misplaced bone, there was NEVER any mention of the misplaced bone in his ankle. The said bone was in his foot, pressed the nerve but that was fixed and had nothing to do with ankle.

danica , 5/8/13 1:48 AM


I didn't watch a single point in this match, and I had no idea of the score when I logged in. BUt when I saw a 199 comments on this thread(prior to mine) I just knew Djokovic had bombed out :D

tj600 , 5/8/13 1:54 AM


The audience was bad from the start of the match. They were whistling to Nole even before he took the MTO. It is ok to root against the biggest opponent of your guy, and I am ok with crowds not supporting mine, I myself usually root for the underdog, but I am not ok for deliberate disturbing of one's serve or such loud outbursts of happiness after an error. Primitive.

All in all, I enjoyed this match, or rather the first two sets (minus the TB) that I watched. I thought there were some great shots. Dimitrov played some nice and inspired tennis, showed that he has all the shots and that he can move around the court and defend well, but also that he has huge problems with stamina. He needs to address that if he wants to succeed on a grander stage.

Nole didn't play bad, I don't want to blame this loss on his terrible play, but he definitely didn't move well and some of his trademark shots misfired big time. He also made some bad decisions like not playing that shot at his first set point when he thought it was out. There he maybe payed the price for losing the first set. And Willmw, Nole from MC would smoke this Nole no doubt. Something was not right for him.

In a strange way, I am happy that Nole is out. I would hate to see and hear that terrible audience again. This will give him more time to prepare for upcoming challenges. So far, he had an interesting season in terms of really being up and down. I hope he'll gather his wits around him, start picking up some pace and wining some great tournaments... at least those he never won before :).

danica , 5/8/13 2:20 AM


My concern for Dimitrov's cramping is because he needs to get fitter in order to win. I do think he has the shots and the game to do something in this sport, but it's not going to happen if he keeps cramping after two sets not even in hot or humid conditions. It's certainly not about dissing him! It's simply something that has to be addressed in order for him to continue to do well. I would like to see this young man realize his potential. He has seemed to play better recently and has had his chances. But he choked when serving for the set against Nole in a previous match and hasn't been able to keep it together mentally. So it was nice to see him keep it together.

I did not want or expect him to retire because of the cramping. He played through it and good for him! I also thought that something was off with Nole. Cheryl mentioned that he seemed to be tripping. I thought he was off balance at times hitting his shots. There was one point where he managed to get to one of Dimitrov's drop shots, but lost his balance and almost started falling backwards. They played it back a few times. Something was off with his movement. I have no idea what it was. He also made way too many UE's off his backhand and even missed some easy forehands.

No player who is #1 wants to get bounced out in the second round of a Masters tournament. There is a question of pride. Nole seemed to be off and his game wasn't working that well. It may have had something to do with Dimitrov's aggressive game.

I think the crowd got out of control with the booing and whistling. I saw the moment when Nole seemed to roll his ankle and missed hitting the ball entirely. I am not going to get into this back and forth of - is he or isn't he. All I can say is that after the MTO he seemed to be moving very well. Whatever is going on, only he knows. I do not think he should have used that profane language to the crowd. It's not appropriate for the #1 player in the world.

Rafa has had to deal with so much crap from the Parisian fans at RG. Somehow he never managed to lose it like that.

This was a great win for Dimitrov. But if he wants to continue to do well, his fitness has to be a priority. I say it only for his benefit. I want him to do well.

Nativenewyorker , 5/8/13 2:57 AM


I don't think dimitrov has a cramping problem in general, as he only seems to cramp against djokovic and nadal(who make you run a lot). Against most of the other players, he usually does not cramp I think.

tj600 , 5/8/13 3:08 AM


The spanish crowd is no better than the french and can be even worse.

I remember when the US played vs. spain in the cery packed Bull ring and it was the wrost crowd I've ever seen. roddick was beating ferrer and every time he set up to serve the crowd would interfere. The end result roddick lost in a tight 5th set. when he played Nadal same scenario and Andy lost again. The crowd began chanting andy, andy after he lost. In his presser one of the journos asked him about the crowd's chanting and he said"Sure they like me when they saw I was being beaten by their man". I think in the future before any fans condemn the frenchies for their behavior, they should remember the spaniards for their ugly behavio, and put a lid on the criticisms of any other countries.

scoretracker , 5/8/13 3:18 AM


Dimi's style of play will be a problem for him when he meets up with the top guys who have a gladiatorial style. He needs to follow Fed in that also, and not get into long rallies by ending the points quickly. If not, he'll be cramping big time. Baghdatis has that same problem when he plays against guys who like to run the opponent around, and it's the reason he loses so many of those matches.

scoretracker , 5/8/13 3:23 AM


@ Danica, I am watching the match and for the first set the crowd was clearly supportive of both players! Yeah, they were very excitied about the way Dimi was hanging with Nole and I have seen that kind of exuberance for an underdog many a time. I must say I cant recall ever seeing it with Fed, but for Rafa I have!!

However, its only in the second set after the so-called MTO that the crowd just got pissed!!! And say what you like but maybe they were justified in feeling so!

Yeah, I know how it feels when your fav is jeered when he is playing.....it happened to Rafa in his game with Sod and in his WTF game with Fed two years ago!! Its not nice, but I only see Rafa fans complain when it happens to him so I really feel no sympathy for Nole on that score!!

With respect to Novak's play today, he played well but with a few uncharacteristic errors here and there. The same way I felt about Rafa's game with Novak at MC, except that Rafa played a bit worse!! No one likes to admit that their fav was outplayed but in this case, i think too that Novak was outplayed. He did not play that badly where he could not win the match, unlike Rafa who just played horribly for whatever reason, and so therefore had no chance! Its not an excuse, its the truth!

Novak was hailed the new King of clay by many, but now he has been taken down by a new comer who has never even been to a final of any sort ( dont think so!). Like I always like to remind some here..........There is a whole lot of tennis to be played.......lets all just sit back and enjoy and see how it unfolds. I believe it is going to be a very interesting season!!! However, Once we start getting too big for our breaches then we quickly get yanked back to earth................with our mouthes wide open..................much like today!

Wishing Rafa all the luck tomorrow and for the rest of the clay season!! VAMOS!!!

Monalysa , 5/8/13 3:24 AM


^^
Now be really honest. If the shoe was on the other foot. If Nadal was 5 years older than Fed and Fed went pro 3 years after Nadal. If Fed broke through on his first try at RG and defeated Nadal in the semi there, at a time where Nadal was approaching his best levels / years and was already lauded as the best player of his time, and already the favorite in Paris. Now, if the Parisian crowd started to be really nasty to Fed then in that tournament and would never let up, year after year even as Fed became a legend of RG and compared to Borg and made RG one of the most talked about tournaments etc. Would you, I mean would you really write what you just wrote above about the French crowd then? Are you sure? Because the behaviour of the French crowd towards the always well-behaved Nadal in Paris in 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 (especially that year in the match against Soderling, 2010, 2011 and 2012 is just beyond the pale and unjustified.

chlorostoma , 5/8/13 3:29 AM


by ^^ I was replying to scoretracker, not Monalysa.... in case that was not clear

chlorostoma , 5/8/13 3:31 AM


This win makes Dimitrov king of clay, right?

holdserve , 5/8/13 3:41 AM


@chlorostoma, you want truth? OK, here it is. I never really cared much about crowd behavior coz I go ot baseball and football games, and am accustomed to very nasty crowds. At football, the fans curse so badly you'd think it's a bar fight taking place. all that said, I don't think the french crowd is any worse than most other countries i watch a lot of DC matches, and the americans have to play several times in europe, where the hate is very obvious. When US won DC, PMac talked about the hostiolity the American DC team have had to face and complimented our guys for sticking to their mission. The point I'm trying to make is why should Rafa fans be upset by the french crowd when they know that heir man is the best at RG? If I was a Rafa fan I'd say it's his greatness that has them so nasty and think of it as a compliment to his greatness. And, it would make it all that weeter when he bites the trophy. That's my take, believe it or not. In all honesty though, fed's never had to deal with hostile crowds, but the US DC team had to, and I just put it down to their fears coming to the surface coz our guys were a big threat.

scoretracker , 5/8/13 3:45 AM


@ holdserve, by all means!!!

Monalysa , 5/8/13 3:49 AM


DC crowds are always nasty as they are supporting their country. .
Watched the match now...I think the crowd was pretty neutral till the point when Djokovic took the MTO. I think it was within his rights to take one...he must have had an issue I am sure, but the crowd's behaviour really changed against Djokovic from that point onwards

I remember the match between Nadal and Federer in Madrid 2009, when the crowd simply appreciated good play and cheered Fed too. THerefore, I wouldn't put the Spanish at the same league as RG crowd.

atul1985 , 5/8/13 4:05 AM


scoretracker, 5/8/13 3:45 AM
OK. Those are other sports, as is soccer for example. In tennis the French behaviour seems really outrageous. And we have different views, no probs.

Now tell me once, honestly, ... in terms of not the majority of Fed fans (and 99.9% of those never or almost never post on any tennis blogs) but in terms of the rafa-hating fed fans... where does the hatred come from? Did it not originate, pure and simple, and continue, from Rafa beating the Fed not only the first time they met (on hardcourt) but a majority of the time after, during years where no one else beat Roger or did not beat him more than once every year or two at the most, and also because Nadal prevented Roger to win a career slam, and to accumulate even more slams in his peak years, and because all this renders the whole notion of goat entirely questionable (if it ever made sense to even contemplate comparing players across generations and types of equipment)? And because, in the case of at least some of the fans, this diminishes their own self-image that was somehow propped up by identification with the lofty heights of the untouchable nearly perfect idol of all generations tennis present past and future

If it is NOT the above, then, simply put, what else is it? Is it really that he is not supposed to be so physical or that he has some OCD behaviour he wished himself he could get over, or any number of other lame reasons proposed?

chlorostoma , 5/8/13 4:28 AM


^^^^

I agree with your comments. I think the crowd was really enjoying a competitive match. They did seem to cheer for the underdog which is natural. But when Nole took the MTO, that's when they turned against him. They seemed to think that it was gamesmanship. If he felt pain, then he had the right to take the MTO. That was where it all changed, with the crowd chanting for Dimitrov and rudely clapping when Nole double faulted or missed a shot.

I think the Spanish may have their moments, but they have a long way to go to catch up with the RG fans. Rafa has had to deal with their open hostility for years, even as he kept on winning. Now they seem to have come to a place where they at least respect him. That's progress of a sort.

Nativenewyorker , 5/8/13 4:29 AM


Great win for Grigor. There's a reason he's called baby-Fed. He could be the next-in-line to take over after Djokovic finishes his lording of the tennis world. [maybe around 2016 or so.]

The madrid crowd was nasty, but hey no one thought the Spanish crowds were saints. If you are supportive of these crowds then you have no business calling out the RG crowd for booing nadal. You don't even want to know what the majority of French think about rafa and his spanish hombres! Yannick noah and l'equipe keep giving us a peeek into their thoughts now and then.

All said, the real battle is at RG and I am confident Djokovic will complete the rafa slam by beating him at Paris as well. Madrid is the least similar to the surface in Paris, so if there was a match Djokovic had to lose, this had to be the tournament.
I just hope Djokovic's injury is nothing that will hamper his RG participation. Get some nole!

Nothing to worry, it's not like he lost to a nobody like Rosol in the most important tennis tournament in the world. Grigor is a future no.1 player and madrid is just a minor tournament compared to even RG, forget Wimbledon! I am positive nole will take this in his stride and not use this loss to orchestrate a 7-month hooey-baloney injury drama! [that was priceless stuff from the nadal camp! 7 months of reality tv competing with trashy reality tv stars like the kardashians! LOL!

I am very certain nole will not stoop to such low-life acts!

Ajde nole!

Fedkovic23 , 5/8/13 4:59 AM


"In a strange way, I am happy that Nole is out. I would hate to see and hear that terrible audience again. This will give him more time to prepare for upcoming challenges. So far, he had an interesting season in terms of really being up and down. I hope he'll gather his wits around him, start picking up some pace and wining some great tournaments... at least those he never won before :).


Agree with your sentiments! RG will give nole the career slam and cincinnati will land him the distinction of being the only guy to win all 8 mandatory + 1 non-mandatory master's + year end championship. 1GS + 1 master's and no.1 by a mile. The guy is doing quite good.

Fedkovic23 , 5/8/13 5:04 AM


I just wanted to clarify that my post @4:29 AM was directed at atul's post made @ 4:05 AM. I did not see chloro's post when I wrote mine.

Nativenewyorker , 5/8/13 5:21 AM


The crowd's heckling of djokovic was appalling but even worse was his swearing and baiting of them at the changeover. Never mind the fact that he is the #1 and should set an example in terms of comportment, he is the tennis PROFESSIONAL, not the crowd. As a professional he should KNOW to take the high road. By responding to their taunts, he settled for the road the crowd travelled, the low one.
Conduct unbecoming.

Who cares why the crowd behaved as badly as they did? Amazing what people will come up with to excuse wrong-doing. Same applies to Novak.

Is this the first time Novak has been booed? Is he the first tennis pro to be booed? Rafa gets booed at RG every year, has he ever sworn back at the crowd? Murray got booed at the WTF, by his own people! Did he swear back at the crowd? Youngsters like Jerzy have responded badly to crowd provocation but sorry, Djokovic was disappointing in that respect.

Please note, my above comments do not condone the crowd's behaviour but I refuse to draw a false equivalence between Djokovic and the crowd because Djokovic is supposed to be better than the crowd, in terms of court etiquette and training at least. Anyone who condones Djokovic's behaviour is selling him short imho.

As far as Dimitrov's cramping is concerned, it is not true to say he only cramps when he plays the big boys. He cramped last year playing Gaquet (yes Gasquet) and he was reduced to crawling around the court in his smalls after his shorts slid off because he couldn't walk. This was the match Gasquet threw up on court after a long rally. I am sure there are numerous other incidences out there of Dimitrov's cramping. It is frustrating because Dimitrov is fun to watch noone wants to see him losing because he cannot last in a match. Cramping is a fitness and nutrition issue, issues which should be within his control to address, why is he not doing so?

rafaisthebest , 5/8/13 7:35 AM


Novak had no business losing this match. Dimitrov was busted by the end of the 2nd set. Suffice it to say, Novak had a shocker and Dimitrov capitalised, cramps and all, shocking.

That said, this is not the end of anything. This may be the beginning of Dimitrov but it certainly is not the end of Novak. He lost a match, that's it, it happens to all professional tennis players. Like someone else mentioned above, I hope this result instils perspective in some Novak fans, they went out of control after he beat Rafa at MC, out of control. Some were even moved to proclaim him the new King of Clay, outrageous assertions, outrageous! I hope they woke up today feeling suitably chastened and embarrassed. But then again it shows how important beating Rafa is to some people but still...................

Novak is still the best player on the planet. He remains, in my opinion, the player best placed to give Rafa a run for his money at RG. I am not reading anything from this loss in terms of his RG prospects, he is a threat. Dimitrov is the real deal but he needs to work on his fitness, currently it is an embarrassment.

rafaisthebest , 5/8/13 7:49 AM


Geez, how was the match. Reports seem to suggest a mini epic.

samprallica , 5/8/13 8:17 AM


Samps: It was pretty epic. When was the last time Nole got bounced out in his first match of a Masters?

'Is it just me, or does Nole look to be...tripping or something today? '
cherylmurray, 5/7/13 9:35 PM

An astute observation. This was some half an hour before the MTO incident. When each of the trips were seen in slow motion it looked almost as if he had braked instead of sliding. This could not have been caused by the state of the clay - Dimitriov demonstrated some spectacular slides. It may have been a problem with the shoes or he was avoiding siding at certain moments to protect the ankle. What is puzzling is after the MTO the tripping ceased and Nole picked up his game for a while.

Re: crowd behaviour. Initially they were simply routing for the underdog in the first set and acknowledging the plucky play from Igor. They didn't turn actively hostile until after the MTO.

Not much to choose between Spanish and French crowd behaviour. The former still go regularly to watch the gory sport of bullfighting: the latter once thought watching heads roll at the guillotine was nice day out.

ed251137 , 5/8/13 8:47 AM


^^^^

I mentioned Cheryl's comment about Nole looking like he was tripping. To me he seemed just off balance in his movment on the court. In an earlier post here, I referenced a moment when Dimitrov hit a drop shot and Nole had to rush to get to it. But he lost his balance and almost fell backwards. That was quite strange.

I also noticed what ed mentioned about how Nole wasn't sliding but more like braking when he tripped up. I don't know if it was because of the taping on his ankle. When he took the MTO, the camera showed a closeup of his ankle once he took off his socks and shoes. It was very heavily taped. They showed the trainer working on it and retaping it and trying to provide more support.

I believe that Nole had a total of 45 UE's for the match. That's hardly indicative of him playing at his best. He was missing with the backhand quite a bit and at times even the forehand. Nole did say after the match that he hasn't picked up a racket since MC, but made no excuses and gave Dimitrov credit for playing well and deserving the win.

I also agree with ritb in not reading too much into this loss as it relates to RG. It's never a good sign when you follow up a win with a second round exit at the next Masters tournament. However, there is a lot more tennis to be played. I also agree that some Nole fans did lose perspective after he beat Rafa at MC.

Nativenewyorker , 5/8/13 9:00 AM


Correction @ 8:47 AM

Before somebody points it out: two slips of the tongue.

'rooting' not 'routing'
Grigor not Igor

ed251137 , 5/8/13 9:12 AM


When Andy was booed by the French crowd, as he walked onto court if you please wish we had italics on here for that one, well he was playing Gasquet, he merely gave a rather sardonic smile. Best response I feel, but then one of the many reasons I love Andy is his understated response to most things - even winning a grand slam.
As far as the match goes, Nole was clearly having an "off" day, do hope his ankle is OK danica and zare, whereas Dimitrov had rather a good "on" day. Oh well, makes a change from Andy having his usual early round exit......
Expect Dimitrov will go out to Stan now, c'est la view.
@nats gr8 post and good to see u back :)

deuce , 5/8/13 9:17 AM


Very unwise and not seemly behaviour from the No.1.

Also the triumphalism at the end of set 2 was excessive and very unattractive. Following that display I have to admit to feeling he got his just desserts in the 3rd.

I thought Nole had learnt his lesson after taking on the USO crowd following Roddick's provocative comments in '08.

ed251137 , 5/8/13 9:50 AM


Even when the French were cheering FOR Fed at the FO, he told them to "Shut Up" at the top of his lungs in a fit of childish rage.

#Classy?

Conspirator , 5/8/13 10:05 AM


I should go back to threads about the MC finals and Nole's win to check which Nole fans claimed he was the new King of clay. Honestly people, I am rather curious whether you read it here or on some other tennis forums. Or maybe I missed something. I remember Ricky writing that MC had a new king meaning only that there was a new champion. That never meant Nole automatically became the King of clay. I know I haven't written anything of the sort, and am pretty sure Zare and Samprallica haven't either.

Deuce, thanks ;). I am not even sure Nole had such an "off" day. There was something strange, unnatural about him in that match. As if there was a spell cast on him in that Magic box :). I like how Dimitrov played. He had a chance to beat Nole in IW this year, but choked. However, I think that gave him a belief that he could win against him and other top guys. We've seen that he almost beat Rafa too. So, it will be quite interesting to follow his path in the future.

danica , 5/8/13 10:09 AM


danica, you should know all about wrongly accusing people. You still haven't come up with any animosity I showed towards Rosol over the past year, which I am certain I've never done.

nadline , 5/8/13 10:21 AM


Thanks guys...it's great to be back...I was on a business trip to US...a lot of stuff to get done...work seems to take over my life :) however, I tried to stay in touch by reading your comments as much as I could...:)
let us be happy though...We should be excited about the upcoming times?the best tennis is yet to come this year...RG, Wimby, USO...wow...and all four or should I say five (should not forget Ferrer is No4) have their ups and downs...it's gonna be close this year...all of them can be considered favorite to win GS...no one so far stands out and that is a good thing...great tennis coming up...
to reflect one more time on the topic of Nole cursing the crowd...IMO there is no excuse in the world for it...if it was Rafa I would be utterly disappointed...just not appropriate thing to do and I know Nole will regret it...moreover, the Serbian commentator on Sport Club channel seemed to be supportive of Nole's behavior...his words were: "kids should cover their ears but I am glad Nole said that to the crowd"?!!! Unbelievable!

natashao , 5/8/13 10:22 AM


danica , 5/8/13 10:09 AM

Please:

1. The phrase, "Some Novak funs" is general, not specific. You, zare, samprallica are not the only Novak fans out there. Neither of you are singled out as having called Novak the King of Clay because neither of you ever said it, I believe!

2. There is no TT rule which says we only have to reference comments made by posters on this site. This is a general tennis forum, we are free to quote/discuss things we see/hear on other forums. We quote links from other forums etc. The important thing is that correct attributions are done and in this respect I believe this has been respected because no-one has accused any Novak fan on TT of calling Novak the new King of Clay.

3. The issue of Tennis Channel, for example, posing the question if Novak is the New King of Clay, has been discussed fully on this site, I do not need to rehash that discussion. So, yes, SOME Novak fans presumptiously rushed to annoint Novak the new King of Clay. Some of us called them out, asking them not to rush to judgment.

Honestly, I do not see why you feel you have to be the bearer of all Novak's fan's burden. You are not responsible for their utterances either, neither do you have to defend them, unless you agree with them.

rafaisthebest , 5/8/13 10:27 AM


LOL at the djokovic fans acting like this loss isnt a concern. Djokovic thrives on match wins and consistent titles, look at 2011. Losses and lack of match play hurt him big time.

willmw101 , 5/8/13 10:33 AM


@Nadline,
I gave you my answer. Read it again, and again if need be.

@NatashaO,
I am curious, who was the commentator on Sport Club? I am glad Nole reacted that way too. It is obviously the only way that crowd could understand. Body language if anything. They definitely didn't understand the words. I never saw anything like that. And I was on quite a few sporting events.

@RITB,
I apologize, I was under the impression that you meant posters on this site. I've just checked the thread here on which that Tennis Channel question was mentioned (under the "Approach shots") and didn't notice any Nole's fans taking part. Maybe there was another one that I missed. I don't read all the discussions here. And true, I didn't follow the Tennis Channel polls but I find such questions unnecessary and provocative.

@Willmw,
Believe you me, I don't see why would this loss be a concern. I found that a number of Rafans here say the same thing - you don't read into one win or one loss. Nole's win over Rafa, and Nole's loss yesterday are not an indication of anything. There is a lot of tennis to be played.

danica , 5/8/13 11:03 AM



@Nadline,
I gave you my answer. Read it again, and again if need be.
danica, 5/8/13 11:03 AM


You haven't admitted that you were telling fibs. Supporting Rafa 100% does not mean I showed animosity towards Rosol over the past year. You made it up, s admit it.

nadline , 5/8/13 11:13 AM


Danica you aren't comparing Nadals' loss in Monte Carlo to Djokovics loss in Madrid are you?? Oh wait you are.

Nadal lost in the finals of Monte Carlo at about 50% and had the match in his control numerous times in the second set only to play poor tennis.

Djokovic lost in the 2nd round of Madrid at about 65-70% and got outplayed for 90% of the match. Djokovic never had the match under control and seemed very inconsistent.

Whats more is Nadal's proven ability to build momentum faster than any other player on clay. Djokovic has never proved this and as a result it seems as though a lack of match play and confidence could realistically harm djokovic's chances at rome and the french. His historically most successful seasons have come after amassing consistent title winning streaks of match play. This has not been evident in djokovic's game since the since the end of last year!!

willmw101 , 5/8/13 11:15 AM


Obviously flustered by the taunting and catcalls of the fans, Djokovic was reportedly heard spewing four-letter words at fans in his native Serbian, per the New York Times' Ben Rothenberg:
"Djokovic looked to be screaming vulgarities at crowd between sets in Serbian. Can't imagine last time he played in atmosphere so hostile"...

everyone understands these words, Danica...you don't have to be a polyglot to know this...it's not a rocket science...:) Nole's temperament surely in force there...:)

natashao , 5/8/13 11:27 AM


Djokovic has had many, many critical early matches and won because his opponents folded; yesterday Dimitrov stunned us all by overcoming the cramp and kept his resolve to the end.

Rafa played appallingly in the MC final and Djoker took advantage, that's all.

nadline , 5/8/13 11:52 AM


I don't know where to post this but it looks like Berdy will be sent packing by another youngster...this Janowitz fellow looks on a mission here...what is it with these raising stars? They are playing well, they seem to be determined to take the favorites out and gain on top of all they are cute...:) Both Dimitrov and Janowitz will soon have fan girls chasing them wherever they go...:)

natashao , 5/8/13 12:25 PM


and gain...their moments of glory...is what I meant to say in the above post...

natashao , 5/8/13 12:36 PM


Bunch of Novak haters here. I haven't seen so many nasty comments since jeanie and stiff1eye roamed these parts. Even before the MTO and swearing.

ts38 , 5/8/13 12:36 PM


Uncle Toni has already singled out Jerzy for big things. He is standing tall against Berdy, pun fully intended..........

rafaisthebest , 5/8/13 12:37 PM


nats: I saw Dimitrov at Queens last year. He was in tennis whites and strolling through the crowd. The person I was with said, "Who's that?" I replied "Dimitrov" and he heard me and looked so pleased yet embarrassed that he'd been recognised. Soooooo cute.
Better get used to it...;)

deuce , 5/8/13 12:42 PM


I think it is high time the ATP recognised the swearing in foreign languages by players and punished them (retroactively if need be) in the same manner they punish English speakers. If that had been an English speaker ranting yesterday they would have been sanctioned. It is not fair. I have heard Ferru swear like a sailor and even Rafa too (well, not in Ferru's league but the one time I heard Rafa swear on court was during the Wmbledon he beat Berdy when he was called out for on-court coaching during an earlier round).

rafaisthebest , 5/8/13 12:51 PM


nobody hates Novak...that's ridiculous, ignorant and plain stupid comment...everyone is allowed to criticize and disapprove...that is what these forums are all about...go read some novels or fairytales, ts38...you obviously can't handle the truth...if you don't like seeing opinions different than yours you don't belong here...

natashao , 5/8/13 12:57 PM


^^^exactly what I told chr18 on another thread. These Fedfans are desperately trying to ingratiate themselves to Nole fans so that, in their dreams, they can have this grand alliance against Rafa. Pretty childish.

rafaisthebest , 5/8/13 1:03 PM


deuce, 5/8/13 12:42 PM
:))))

natashao , 5/8/13 1:20 PM


@ RIBT,

"they can have this grand alliance against Rafa".......................now, not only against Rafa but against Spain........hehe!!

Guys, Novak fans will get over it just like we did with Rafa's loss, and just like Fed fans got over his loss to Rafa at MC!! The excuses come and go and are more outrageous and outlandish than the other..........its just so funny what some fans make out of their fav player's loss......................even some of us Rafa fans too!!

However, like I said earlier, Im sure it must hurt the way Novak lost..........he was outplayed!!! Dont care if he says he had not picked up a racket (which I dont believe by the way!!).............Dimi's game just gave him trouble just like Fed's game does! Plain and simple!!! The more you watch the match the more you can see..............i cant believe how he lost the 3rd 6:3, after winning the second with so much momentum on his side.

Anyway, some of Novak's fans are now saying that its a good thing he lost then he can get some rest in readiness for Rome and RG. Are you f@#$ing kidding me?!!! He just attributed this loss to not holding a racket in over a week, the last thing he needs then is more rest!!!!!

I hate it when fans keep pushing the goal post bcos now this loss is no big deal, the real deal is Rome and RG. If he loses Rome then it too will be no big deal, the real deal is RG!!!! Its hilarious!!!!

Losses are all part of the sport.............the players say that all the time!!! The top players are a victim of their own success, esp Rafa!!! When loses it like, Whoaw!!!! Unbelievable!!!!

Anyway, I hope Rafa plays a good game today, and as always I am hoping that he reaches the finals and wins!! If he dosent, then............its no big deal..........the real deal is Rome and RG.................hahaha!!

VAMOS!!

Monalysa , 5/8/13 3:22 PM


How foreign would it be if Rafa said he laughed for 10 minutes after the match?

#Character

Conspirator , 5/8/13 3:28 PM


natashao, 5/8/13 12:57 PM
and
rafaisthebest, 5/8/13 1:03 PM
you've read my mind. And probably that of many Novak fans reading here (and not only those who post regularly)



chlorostoma , 5/8/13 5:57 PM


Willmw, yes, I compare the two losses. In the end, a loss is a loss is a loss. And note - I am not making any excuses for Nole's loss. I don't care at how much % he played, or whether Rafa was at his 5%, 50% or 95% best. At that particular time, at that particular place, taking all the circumstances into equation, they were both outplayed by a better player of that day. That's all there is to it. I pointed out the smart conclusion of your fellow Rafans: one loss doesn't mean anything. Rafa lost in the second round of Wimbledon last year, so what? As we see, it was not the end of anything. Otherwise, I agree with all you said in the second part of your post.

NatashaO, why are you bringing that foul language scene again? Are you enjoying that your compatriot said it in the heat of the moment? How come you never have anything nice to say about him, when he concedes points or gives credit to his opponents during a match, when he is not a sore loser...?

Monalysa, it doesn't matter one bit what you believe. If he said he didn't play for 12 days, I respect that just like I respected Rafa's saying he had a stomach virus at the beginning of the season. Novak is obviously still nursing that ankle. I read somewhere that after MC, he traveled to Prague to see the best specialist. If he aggravated his ankle yesterday then yes, it needs more time to heal.

danica , 5/8/13 7:44 PM


During Barcelona I saw Rafa do something I had never seen him do openly before i.e. openly applaud an opponent's good point by tapping his racket against his palm. I thought: Oh no, Rafa's going soft! This is all Novak's fault, now he's infecting Rafa with his on-court antics!

Where the heck is Uncle T?

rafaisthebest , 5/8/13 7:57 PM


@ Danica,

Well, if indeed he did not practice then serves him right for losing!!! To feel you can compete against some of the best players ever to play tennis and not feel the need to practice!!!?!!! Either way, he is a nucklehead!! Arrogance much?!!!

Monalysa , 5/8/13 8:06 PM


LOL nats you can't see it because you are just as bad as the rest of them. Danica saw it, hell even twinge saw it and he doesn't care about Nole. He was daring you nasty lot to try this crap on a Murray thread. If you're too stupid to see it yourself, why don't you try reading the comments on this thread and everywhere you see the word Djokovic replace it with the word Nadal, and everywhere you see Nole replace it with Rafa. Don't try and be noble, you're just as hateful as the rest. Loser.

Also, there was a point in time when I thought people used the term fedfan to describe someone who is a fan of Roger Federer. But most peoples' brains are so tiny (I'm talking about holdserve, rafaisthebest and chlorostoma mostly, but there are others) that it instead means somebody who doesn't follow their idiotic logic. I guess they have joined the high schooler in terms of intelligence and tenacity, a difficult club to fall into.

ts38 , 5/8/13 10:12 PM


Good grief, I've never seen so much deliberation on a loss as I've been reading on this thread. The word logomachy comes to mind. I'm still trying to figure out what's the real problem here. (1) are some of you angry that djokovic lost, and won't meet Rafa in the final, which has denied rafa the opportunity to get revenge and retain his King of Clay title? or (3) are just talking for the sake of having something to say? It's like a damned if he did or didn't for Dimi.

The word logomachy comes to mind, which in essence means: 1. a dispute about or concerning words.
2. an argument or debate marked by the reckless or incorrect use of words; meaningless battle of words.

If I were a nadal fan, I'd be happy that his biggest rival was taken out for him and he can now play freely without thoughts of meeting Novak in the final, if they both had gotten there. Instead, there's so much condemnation thrown towards poor Dimi for cramping, etc. Why? He's no worse than some of the other players, who grab their legs, start slumping with dropped shoulders and poor body language, looking as though their best friend had died, by showing utter desperation and looking as though they've lost the way to the bathroom. These are just some of the actions some players use as gamesmanship to throw off the opponent's game, coz they know they are losing.

There are a few few top 10ers who've had cramping issues in the past, and are still having them occasionally. Not to mention Baghdatis, who's supposed to be a veteran of the sport, and still has not learned how to hydrate his body enough to avoid cramping. No one pays any attention them, so why this big brouhaha about dimi's cramping? Give the youngman a break will ya, and be happy for him. It's obvious the win meant a lot to him. He cried tears of joy. I haven't watched today's matches, and don't knw when he's next scheduled to play. I'm somewhat sure Dimi will not win his next match, due to the cramping, which leaves the body very stresed/sore and in pain/debilitated for several days, plus the emotions he's got to be feeling, to have finally taken a big scalp.

Also, it doesn't matter how he got the 'W', the fact is he got it, fair and square. other than the cramping and the MTO, the match IMO was good quality and entertaining in parts. Dimi has a great arsenal of shots, and when his mental and physical coordination begin to fall into place, he'll be someone that will cause some players to have agita when they see him on their side of the draw. It's just a matter of time.

There shouldn't be excuses from any djoker fans, e.g., not practising for how many days, etc., and his performance before the MTO, coz as the saying goes, if you take the court, then you're fit to play. His match play before the MTO was shaky, and IMO it was due to some feelings of trepidation due to what happenend the last time he played Dimi at IW, where he nearly lost, but won that match on his experience and dimi's lack of, simple as that. Dimi outplayed him. So plz lose the excuses. Djoker has gotten many wins due to w/o and retirements, without asterisks. A few years ago in Dubai, Berdych had him on the ropes but retired due to some health issue, but Berdy was winning.

Dimi beating the djoker was going to happen eventually, coz he was so close at IW, and he'll also beat Nadal sooner than later coz he was giving him all sorts of fits when they last played. This kid is here to stay and will be a big threat when he gets over his physical issues and his head straighted out. He's now got Magnus Norman on his team, and we all know who was Norman's guy, the one who stunned nadal at the FO. I'm sure Dimi will be taught what to do when next he meets nadal on clay, you can count on it.

scoretracker , 5/9/13 3:01 AM


scoretracker, 5/9/13 3:01 AM
I completely agree with you!

danica, 5/8/13 7:44 PM
I don't post a lot here but when I did I never failed to recognize Nole's achievements. I never said anything bad about him, I highly respect Nole as a professional and the only reason why I am bringing his swearing up is that I am utterly disappointed! It looks to me that nadlilne is perfectly right about you: you are the master of wrong accusing of people! Furthermore, I never mention Nole's applauding or as you put it "giving credit to his opponents" during the match because I honestly dislike it and I find it disrespectful of the opponents. Would he and did he ever do it to Federer? Of course not, because he does it only to the players whom he considers inferior to him. That's pathetic. Sorry not to meet your expectations on this! And I will stop here.

ts38, 5/8/13 10:12 PM
where did you get an idea that I have any interest whatsoever in what you may think about me? I don't give a damn about your opinion of me and rest assured your comments about me are of no relevance...all I can say is that the word "hater" seems to be obsessing you, you poor creature...I don't hate, I never do...I only feel sorry...for you in this particular case...

Vamos Rafa!

natashao , 5/9/13 2:16 PM


... 16 second mark in a very tight match...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmBdvQ35PBQ

But, then again, I'm pretty sure Nole knows that Fed is now inferior to him too. ;)

#Humble

Conspirator , 5/9/13 2:59 PM


because you read and respond to my comments unprovoked. duh.

"ohhh...i feel so sorry for you" how original.

ts38 , 5/9/13 3:06 PM


scoretracker , 5/9/13 3:01 AM

Regarding Dimitrov's cramping, I can only speak for myself. I am one who is constantly on his case about this because:

a. This issue has been going on for some time now. He has the resources to address it, why has he not?
b. Cramping indicates fitness and nutrition issues, again, why is he not addressing these issues?
c. He is one of the few young guns out there with real potential at challenging the top 4, he cannot turn this potential into reality if he cannot last 3 sets, let alone 5.
d. I like the guy. He is professional, talented and looks like a genuinely nice guy. I want him to go far but he won't unless he addresses the cramping issue.

I do not think pointing out this cramping deficiency does him a disservice. In fact, I urge you to read his post-match presser, he categorically and specifically said he needs to address the cramping issue. I like that attitude: straight up admitting his short-comings. He will go far.

So, if I am criticising him for this issue, it's not because I do not like him or am being hard on him for the sake of, no. It's because I want him to go far, and without addressing this issue, he won't.

Thank goodness he knows this....

rafaisthebest , 5/9/13 3:08 PM


....aaaaaand ts38/2 is inferior to all of us (yes, even scrottracker).

#HighSchool

Conspirator , 5/9/13 3:08 PM


ts38, 5/9/13 3:06 PM

I only responded to the "hater" part as it was utterly stupid thing to say. Then again, I see your problem now and I feel for you...inferiority complex is a serious issue, my dear...

natashao , 5/9/13 3:17 PM


Scoretraker, agreed on most accounts. As for cramping, I'm with RITB and I said something similar. If young Grigor gets cramps in a best of three match, how will he thrive in slams in the best of five format? He needs to find an answer to that.

NatashaO, if Nole applauded Federer, all of you would say he is arrogant for doing so because, that would probably mean he thinks himself so above him. But Nole respects him. And if he didn't give a thumb up or applauded, I heard him say to him "bravo" on several occasions. See, I believe Nole is genuine in his praise, that's something you don't learn. This is also something you recognize in others that are like you.

danica , 5/9/13 7:21 PM


Another thing about Dimitrov, his goal in life is not beating the #1 player in the 2nd round of a Masters 1000. His goal is winning Slams. So let's have a little perspective: stop "big-ing" him up on the basis of this one result. Let him make some waves in Slams first. On that score, Rosol is ahead of him: he has a top 4 scalp (Rafa's) at a Slam and he now has an ATP tournament win. Grigor has neither.

rafaisthebest , 5/9/13 7:48 PM


rafaisthebest, 5/9/13 3:08 PM,

You really said what I wanted to say. I thought that I made it clear in my earlier posts as to why I want Dimitrov to address the cramping issue. It has absolutely nothing to do with whether other players cramp or don't cramp. As you said, even Dimitrov acknowledged that he has to address the issue.

It's said only in a sense that we would like this young man to realize his potential. Cramping in best two out of three sets in cooler conditions is not going to get it done. If this young man wants to do well in slams, then he simply must get fitter.

I also appreciated your follow up comment @ 7:48 PM. People start making silly predictions based on one win over the #1 player in the world. It's kind of a herd mentality when a young player gets one win over the #1 player.

We have to see if Dimitrov can play well consistently and get physically conditioned to handle best three out of five set matches at slams.

People need to understand the difference between constructive criticism and gratuitous attacking.

Nativenewyorker , 5/9/13 8:03 PM


"See, I believe Nole is genuine in his praise, that's something you don't learn. This is also something you recognize in others that are like you."

Very well said. Pseudo humility is obvious and most athletes nowadays parrot words that the PR drills into them and come off as robotic in their views/analysis.

novakisthebest , 5/9/13 8:46 PM


Looks like someone no longer feels his moniker is relevant any more.

Sigh, they just don't make'em like tennisnba anymore.

#MomentOfSilence
#GloryDays

Conspirator , 5/9/13 9:17 PM


Further perspective: here are the rankings the current Top 4 were at 21, the age Dimitrov currently is:

Federer #6
Novak #3
Rafa #2
Murray #4

Dimitrov's current ranking? #28.

rafaisthebest , 5/9/13 9:28 PM


Who was the highest ranked at 21?

#GOAT

Conspirator , 5/9/13 9:39 PM


danica, 5/9/13 7:21 PM

You are contradicting yourself and kind of proving my point. You say Nole RESPECTS Federer and that is why he does not applaud him...so does that mean that he does not respect other players since he does applaud them?! The way you put it, it does imply that Nole feels himself above all players except Fed which is exactly what I thought?
Anyway, I never said Nole was not genuine in doing so. I disapprove the gesture itself especially when knowing that Nole does it most of the times when he is wining...so genuine or not, if I were his opponent and losing the match I wouldn't care less about his thumb up or his "bravo"?and I really don't find other players less genuine just because they do not praise their opponents on court...but that's just me...However, I respect your opinion on this...we will just have to agree to disagree on this issue...:)


I never said Novak is not genuine in applayding at his opponents...I only dissaprove the gesture itself...if you take a good look you will see that he only does it when he is wining...what do you think his opponents feel like at those moments? Why would they care about it anyway? And you are right about his "respect" to Fed...you explained it yourself...

natashao , 5/10/13 12:52 AM


^^^sorry for the mixed posts and duplications...I was doing something else and writing response, so no surprise I repeated myself...:)

natashao , 5/10/13 1:01 AM


Maybe my message didn't come across very well but I don't think I implied that Nole disrespects others by applauding. My whole post is about proving that he does not do it out of disrespect, quite the opposite. He applauded to Rafa too. There are no arguments anyone in the world could tell me in order to convince me that Nole doesn't hold Rafa in highest esteem. And he certainly doesn't do it only when he is winning. I made a comment earlier on this thread for everyone to take note because he was praising Grigor in a moment when he was on a loosing end. And it is not the first time, and I am positive that it is not the last either. But I too respect your opinion and agree to disagree ;).
Cheers! :)

danica , 5/10/13 1:57 AM


@natashao thanks.

@danica and ritb, as I mentioned on another thread, Dimi has to work out his issues with stamina and cramping. IMO, he needs to see a good endocrinologist to pinpoint any problems with his accelerated fluids excretion. In such cases, acceleration of electrolytes excretion is the problem, and only a doctor can figure it out by perforfming tests. It's not a simple matter of just increasing some mineral, but one of staying hydrated over an extended period of time. I'm sure that the cramping matter will be solved soon, or at least i'm hoping for it to happen. would not be nice to see such a promising young talent be destroyed by cramping.

scoretracker , 5/10/13 2:23 AM


Here's Nole applauding Fed (see 17 sec mark) in a tight 1st set tiebreak at WTF.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmBdvQ35PBQ

#ToBeFair
#Just Sayin
#Ajde

Conspirator , 5/10/13 2:33 AM


....aaaaaand ts38/2 is inferior to all of us (yes, even scrottracker).
#HighSchool Conspirator, 5/9/13 3:08 PM

It's obvious that you just cannot help yourself behaving like the GOAT of morons you are meant to be by perpetually lowering yourself to look like the proverbial ass of all time, the goat of stupidity, to gain some much needed attention, don't you?

Every poster is discussing the Dimi/Djoker match, but just look at what this moron does, write utter garbage just to elecit, what she craves, ATTENTION. GET A LIFE TROLL, AND SEEK MEDICAL HELP.

scoretracker , 5/10/13 2:34 AM


Well, yes, that shot was worthy of praise. I mean, I know that I, here, sitting on my cozy sofa :), applaud any great shot by Nole's opponents. I don't see why he wouldn't acknowledge brilliance when he recognizes it. Thanks Conspirator ;)

danica , 5/10/13 2:49 AM


Nole behaved disgracefully in 2011 after beating Rafa on clay. THat semi naked dance by his team on top of a car was disgusting.

holdserve , 5/10/13 3:56 AM


@holdserve, This is one of the reasons I can't defend the Djoker or make allowances for him. Every time I get on a path of changing my opinion, he does something totally uncalled for, which ignites my negative thoughts of him.

I don't understand why he has to get into it with the crowds. It's not only one country, it's several. At AO2008, he was shaking his racket at the crowd for cheering Fed and then later Tsonga. Then when he won the title, both he and his family p***ed in Fed, with their nasty comments. He followed that up in NYC vs. Roddick, when he fed into Barkaan's goading which included Roddick's statement on sars and tried to ridicule Roddick. He got booed by the crowd and had a difficult time with them for years. Thanks to JMac's help he finally got that stigma somewhat removed. He also got into some more crowd stuff in Canada and now Spain.Tthese are the incidents that come to mind readily, but he's had some others, which were not very consequential, except for the perrier bench and digging up Shanghai..

In his pressers he always manages to get in some excuses for his match play, against his opponent, which diminishes their wins, e.g.,

?I didn?t prepare myself so good,? Djokovic said Tuesday. ?But, look, you know, I?m not trying to find any excuses for the loss. I tried to do my best in this moment, and maybe my best is not like it was in Monte?Carlo.

?For 12 days after Monte Carlo I haven?t touched the racquet,? he added. ?I didn?t know up to Saturday if I?m going to come here or not because of the ankle."

then later he goes on to say: ?He was the better player,? Djokovic said. ?The better player won the match, no question about it. You know, I could have played better. You know, I had my chances.

I think Djoker needs to realize (and his fans) that not everyone has to like him, but he can take the high road. and ignore the dislike. I know some fans see his applause for shots and the huggie/kissie act at the net as him being a nice guy. I, as well as many others, see it as an act to put himself into a good light, and not heartfelt.

scoretracker , 5/10/13 4:22 AM


holdserve,
that's celebrating Balkan style :), not a deliberate act to frustrate Rafa or his team. That's how Nole, Troicki, Tipsy... also celebrated after winning the Davis Cup... that's how it's celebrated there. We dance on cars, table tops, wherever (not that I did anything like that :)) ). It is cultural difference. And I agree, to some, unaccustomed observer, that may look disgraceful. I don't get a lot of things here in America, some things that are funny here are not funny to me. Roddick's comments were not funny, not witty but rather very disrespectful - to me. And Nole's reaction to those insults - to me - was understandable. But suddenly, he ends up being a bad guy.

scoretracker,
fair enough ;).
I love Nole for his character. It's not dull. I find that I like unusual characters like Safin, Gulbis... previously Johnny Mc.

danica , 5/10/13 7:54 PM


I think the point @danica brings up about cultural differences and how these affect our interpretation of situations is important and worth reflecting on. Unfortunately, we now live in this global village, and jet age, where national boundaries no longer exist so we naturally assume cultural differences are extinct as well.

I certainly thought that dancing on top of the car escapade was an affront, I never thought it was a Balkan cultural thing.....

#Liveandlearn

rafaisthebest , 5/10/13 8:10 PM



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