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  • Murray, Cilic clash in Sony Open quarterfinals

    3/28/13 5:14 AM | Ricky Dimon
    Murray, Cilic clash in Sony Open quarterfinals A semifinal spot will be at stake when Andy Murray goes up against Marin Cilic on Thursday in Miami. The winner is set to face either Tomas Berdych or Richard Gasquet.

    Andy Murray and Marin Cilic will be squaring off for the ninth time in their careers when they meet in the quarterfinals of the Sony Open on Wednesday.

    Murray is dominating the head-to-head series 7-1, including 4-1 on hard courts. They faced each other twice last year, both times in Grand Slams. After Murray cruised at Wimbledon, a more memorable U.S. Open encounter saw Cilic lead by a set and 5-1 in the second before the Scot stormed back for a 3-6, 7-6(4), 6-2, 6-0 victory.

    Cilic is a considerable underdog once again, but he is playing stellar tennis in the early stages of his 2013 campaign. The 11th-ranked Croat captured a title in Zagreb and he boasts a 15-4 record following straight-set wins this fortnight over Santiago Giraldo, John Isner, and Jo-Wilfried Tsonga.

    Murray may not be on fire at the moment, but his consistency has seen him through to the business end of yet another tournament (one in which none of the other top four players in the world made it to the quarterfinals). The No. 2 seed opened with a blowout of Bernard Tomic before dismissing both Grigor Dimitrov and Andreas Seppi in straight sets. Murray's 16-2 mark includes a triumph in Brisbane, a runner-up at the Australian Open, and a quarterfinal in Indian Wells.

    As their past history indicates, this is a bad matchup for Cilic. Murray's defense is at or near the top of the tennis world and Cilic does not have quite enough firepower to hit through him, especially not on a relatively slow surface. Murray in straight sets is the pick.

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Comments

I'll go with Marin in three. Murray doesn't look convincing to me this tournament. If Marin doesn't suffer another meltdown when facing Murray, I like his chances this time.

luckystar , 3/28/13 11:41 AM


Coming from you lucky that's bad news for Andy supporters :-(

But you're right in your assessment. Andy has not been on top form.

ed251137 , 3/28/13 11:52 AM


Not this supporter Ed.
Andy has been quietly getting on with it.
Muzzy in deux!

Twinge , 3/28/13 2:12 PM


I agree Twinge, but Muzz perhaps in three!

Monalysa , 3/28/13 2:19 PM


Cilic has a good shot here but I'm going with the No. 3 with a bullet.

Muzzard in two close ones.

#HUM3LE

Conspirator , 3/28/13 2:28 PM


Come on Andy, time u won another Masters, you slacker! Andy in 2. Let's Go!

deuce , 3/28/13 4:44 PM


Go for it Andy....................

....................No.9 'Doctor's orders'

You owe it to Deuce, Twinge, and Alex to name but a few.

ed251137 , 3/28/13 4:59 PM


Lendl said on Radio 4 this morning that if Murray wins Miami and goes to #2 he will win the FO because he won't have to fight with the anyone until they got to the final.

That's a curious thing for Mr Lendl to say, considering every players has to win 7 rounds to get to the final, barring WOs.

nadline , 3/28/13 5:22 PM


So Lendl doesn't think Rafa in a potential QF or SF meeting at the FO is anyone? Interesting.

Delusional, but interesting nonetheless.

#KingOfTennis

Conspirator , 3/28/13 5:26 PM


^^I saw Lendl's comments and decided to keep my counsel because it just did not make sense to me.. Everyone knows clay is Muzza's worst surface and it's not Novak/Fed/Rafa he has to worry about on clay, it's the Almagros, Ferrers, Zeballosses of this world who are more likely to be banana skins he slips on before he even meets the other 3.

And it's very likey Rafa will be ranked #5 by the time RG rolls around, which means he could run into Muzza in the quarters...................I guess Lendl considers him to be a no-one then..........

Doesn't make sense to me..............

rafaisthebest , 3/28/13 5:30 PM


.......it's not that Muzza does not have the talent to win on clay, it's just that he has not shown to-date that he can move well enough on it to win.........

rafaisthebest , 3/28/13 5:33 PM


Can't move well on it to win = no talent to win, that's my take. If you can't even move well enough on the surface, that means you can't master the surface, so to me, that means not enough or no talent to win on the surface. One may get lucky though and manage to win one or two titles on it, if the draw permits.

luckystar , 3/28/13 5:38 PM


We know Andy is the perennial favourite for everything. He is poised to win the up coming Golf Masters and become replace Tiger Woods as #1 very soon.

nadline , 3/28/13 5:38 PM


bitter whining & complaining,
i hope it doesn't become a habit ladies
Lendl can say what he wants although it doesn't look at all like he would say something like that. As it is rather silly.
Don't trust the source of this either ;)

Twinge , 3/28/13 5:46 PM


Lendl is beginning to sound like Twinge. What does Andy do to his supporters to make them lose all sense of reality. There was a time when the champion didn't play the rounds but simply waited to contest the final with whoever won the rounds, but we are having to go back to the 19th century for that. The fact that Andy is not even the champion or runner up makes the mind boggle even more.

nadline , 3/28/13 5:50 PM


Andy as you all well know was brought up in rainy Scotland.
Which means no clay courts, or they would presumably have to be classed as `mud courts`
One doesn't have to be a great clay courter to be a great player.
Don't believe me ask Mr Sampras.

Twinge , 3/28/13 5:50 PM


"Lendl is beginning to sound like Twinge. What does Andy do to his supporters to make them lose all sense of reality..."

Oh hahahahahaha,
The irony!

Twinge , 3/28/13 5:51 PM


The last time anyone other than Nadal, Federer or Djokovic won a Masters 1000 on clay since 2005 was 2006 when Robredo won Hamburg.

Since that time it has been 16 for the King of Tennis, a measly four titles for the supposed second best clay-courter of all time (uhm, no) and three for Nole.

I think Muzz has more work cut out for him than Lendl lets on and Lendl knows it.

Funny, such bold statements usually hit the twittersphere rather quickly and I haven't seen anything yet.

#MindGames
#BoyGeorge

Conspirator , 3/28/13 6:01 PM


Lendl's interview. He did acknowledge Rafa's significance but went on to say how advantageous it would be if Andy were #2. They paraphrased the interview on Radio 4 to mean that being #2 gave Andy an advantage over the others.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/21964074

nadline , 3/28/13 6:04 PM


Whoooaaaa, nadline sure took THAT quote out of context.

When Lendl was asked if the most important thing about Andy being No. 2 was where it seeds you in upcoming majors, his response was no. Well the most important thing it would be obviously is if Rafa is not in top four. Then it becomes very tricky because you can be unlucky and play him in quarters or be lucky and have Novak, Roger and Rafa in the other half of the draw. So that is where the biggest advantage of Andy getting to number two would be.

"The draw will be really important," said Lendl. f Andy can get to number two and be seeded second, have a relatively freer path and the others play among themselves and take their physical and mental energy from each other, then the chances improve, providing Andy can do his job and beat the others."

#TwingeIsRight
#QuestionTheSource
#Spin
#Context
#Fish ing
#PDFTT

Conspirator , 3/28/13 6:16 PM


More distortions
Lendl merely said that if Andy gets number 2 seeding with any luck the other top 4 will knock each other out as Rafa is number 5 and would have to go through Roger and Novak, & vice versa if they are drawn together etc.
he didnt say he was going to win it.
I'm sorry but what's wrong with that?
I knew you were talking rubbish, there was nothing controversial in what he said.
I will class you as TT's in-house troll now nadline.
Congratulations on your promotion!

Twinge , 3/28/13 6:17 PM


^^^ Forgot quotes. This was a quote from the Lendl interview where his focus was on being unlucky to draw Rafa:

"Well the most important thing it would be obviously is if Rafa is not in top four. Then it becomes very tricky because you can be unlucky and play him in quarters or be lucky and have Novak, Roger and Rafa in the other half of the draw. So that is where the biggest advantage of Andy getting to number two would be."

Conspirator , 3/28/13 6:19 PM


No I only reported what the sports reporter said Lendl said. If you care to listen again to Radio 4 this morning you will hear the quote exactly as I said it.

nadline , 3/28/13 6:21 PM


What advantage does Murray have for being no.2 when Rafa is no.4 or no.5? Chances are Murray may meet Rafa at the QF stage, if Rafa is no.5; if Rafa is no.4 then Murray has 50/50 chances of meeting Rafa in the SF (assuming Murray can get that far). If Murray remains at no.3, at least he can avoid Rafa until the final. Now maybe Lendl is thinking that Nole is a bigger threat on clay than Rafa is, so Murray being no.2 means he need not face Nole until the final! O maybe he thinks Rafa, Fed and Nole all would fall in the same half of the draw (assuming Rafa stays at no.5), so Murray will stand to gain when he needs only to face one of them at most. Oh, assuming Ferrer too lands in the other half of the draw; too many assumptions btw!

luckystar , 3/28/13 6:24 PM


Here is a link to Radio 4 listen from about 25 mins in

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01rgjkm/Today_28_03_2013/

nadline , 3/28/13 6:31 PM


"O maybe he thinks Rafa, Fed and Nole all would fall in the same half of the draw (assuming Rafa stays at no.5).."

That's what he was actually suggesting as a beneficial hypothetical. Only.

Twinge , 3/28/13 6:31 PM


Lendl said on Radio 4 this morning that if Murray wins Miami and goes to #2 he will win the FO because he won't have to fight with the anyone until they got to the final.

That's a curious thing for Mr Lendl to say, considering every players has to win 7 rounds to get to the final, barring WOs.
nadline, 3/28/13 5:22 PM

In that interview from the link you provided, neither Lendl nor the reporter said that Murray will win the FO if he goes to no. 2.

Is there another link I am missing?

#HmmmFishy

Conspirator , 3/28/13 6:33 PM


Ahh, that's a different link so I had a listen.

As suspected, the reporter did not say he will win the FO. That would have been one biased reporter to say that.

He said it "could increase his chances of winning the French Open".

Who's doing the paraphrasing?

Conspirator , 3/28/13 6:40 PM


I listened to it once half asleep so didn't get the exact words, however, winning the FO stuck in my mind. Increasing his chances to win is a fine line.

nadline , 3/28/13 6:41 PM


I am providing the links so I have no ulterior motives in this matter. I could easily not provide the links.

nadline , 3/28/13 6:43 PM


"I listened to it once half asleep so didn't get the exact words.."

And so the backtracking (face saving) begins lol.....

Twinge , 3/28/13 6:46 PM


OK. Lendl say being #2 will increase Murray's chances of winning the FO. Better?

#splitting hairs

nadline , 3/28/13 6:46 PM


"Lendl said on Radio 4 this morning that if Murray wins Miami and goes to #2 he will win the FO because he won't have to fight with the anyone until they got to the final.."
(nagline)

It's not splitting hairs dear, it was a purposeful distortion.
You came on here to complain about how hyped Andy Murray is even at the FO and
how unrealistic everyone is about him etc.
I can read you like a book.
Or a web page :)
In future get your facts right & if you are wrong a nice apologetic correction is all that will be required.

Twinge , 3/28/13 6:56 PM


you will hear the quote exactly as I said it.
nadline, 3/28/13 6:21 PM

THAT is one big hair to split.

BTW, he said it "could" not "will" increase his chances.

#NadFilter

Conspirator , 3/28/13 6:59 PM


nadline@5.22pm
Wow that's really stirring.
#QuiteShocked

deuce , 3/28/13 7:03 PM


For those who don't already disregard my posts, please disregard:

Conspirator, 3/28/13 5:26 PM

It was based on a split hair.

#Conditioner

Conspirator , 3/28/13 7:14 PM



#more splitting hairs.

nadline , 3/28/13 7:15 PM


Twinge, I provided the links. What more do you want?

#witch hunting

nadline , 3/28/13 7:17 PM


#chameleon

Conspirator , 3/28/13 7:24 PM


Leave @nadline alone. What Lendl said is stupid, period. It is an established fact that Muzza cannot move on clay, he doesn't have a single clay tournament win, and he thinks a #2 seeding will eliminate those shortcomings?

He was disrespectful to other players who are much more proficient on the surface than Fed, Muzza and Nole. Even if he were to draw Rafa and dispatch him (not blooming likely, at all), he would meet either Fed or Ferrer in the semis. I know who I would bet on on clay in that scenario and it ain't Muzza.

#2 for Muzza would be a big achievement and he would have earned it but please, let's not get carried away.

Oh, and contrast this with Rafa's attitude that I do not care if I am seeded 15, as long as I am in the draw and I get to play. Now, there's an established champion speaking...............

Here is another version of what Lendl said, he only has himself to blame. Clearly he needs to zip it and concentrate on coaching:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/21964642

"The draw will be really important," said Lendl. "If Andy can get to number two and be seeded second, have a relatively freer path and the others play among themselves and take their physical and mental energy from each other, then the chances improve, providing Andy can do his job and beat the others."

#talkingwhimsy

rafaisthebest , 3/28/13 7:24 PM


Thank you & i reviewed them and they contradicted you.
Pity you couldn't do the necessary leg work yourself.
But then we often see what we want, don't we?

Witch hunt?
A fair approximation of you, but i think i'll stick with my previous description above of `troll` thank you.
Yeah, I think that hits it on the head.

Twinge , 3/28/13 7:29 PM


He doesn't need to `zip` anything,
Imagine quoting the above as if it were somehow an outrageous presumption .
its nothing but common sense. making mountains out of molehills tsk tsk.
Anyway if he was more `zipped` then we would get practically nothing from him ever.
If any coach needs to `zip it`I would say it would be Rafa's not Lendl.

Twinge , 3/28/13 7:36 PM


Toni does not need to zip it, he has 11 Slams won by his charge to prove it. Lendl, on the other hand, has yet to deliver a clay Slam for Muzza, let alone a clay tournament of any sort.

However, thank God Toni IS zipping it. Why talk when your charge's racket can do all the talking?

rafaisthebest , 3/28/13 7:42 PM


RITB,
I'm just qurious: who are those players who are "much more proficient on the surface" than Fed and Nole. Thanks in advance :).

As for the match today: Andy for the win. Better player and better mover and better retriever.

danica , 3/28/13 7:43 PM


Lendl said it is unlucky to draw Rafa in the quarter finals while Rafa is out of the Top 4 and said that is the most important thing for Andy to avoid, more important than Andy's ranking.

It increases anyone's chances to have Novak, Rafa and Fed in the other half of the draw which is what Lendl said. That was not a stupid thing for him to say.

Nor did he say that it would "eliminate" any shortcomings.

#RafaISTheBest
#LendlAgreed
#HesNotStupid

Conspirator , 3/28/13 7:46 PM


@danica, rushed myself in typing, misspoke. This is what I meant to say:

"He was disrespectful to other players who are much more proficient on the surface aside from Fed, Rafa and Nole."

My point is that before he even meets Fed and Nole in the semi and final he may very well meet a bevy of "clay-court specialists" such as Ferrer, Rafa, Almagro, Falla, Zeballos etc, all very competent on clay.

rafaisthebest , 3/28/13 7:52 PM


^Exactly! Lendl actually suggested that Rafa was indeed the best and was looking out for possible scenarios that could benefit his charge, which er you know he is paid to do.
Ivan Lendl has certainly earned the right to have an opinion on this and anything tennis for that matter. `Even` more than uncle T. Although i doubt he factored in just how thin skinned some of rafas fans can be about well, anything really.

Twinge , 3/28/13 7:55 PM


Who are those players who are "much more proficient on the surface" than Fed and Nole?

No other than Rafael and Nadal, of course!

phoenix , 3/28/13 7:56 PM


The Lendl quotes I am talking about are drawn from the interview I have posted, and I will post it again:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/21964642

If Rafa is #5, Muzza has as much chance of meeting him in the quarters as not. So, what ground-breaking revelation has Lendl come up with? That's why I said he is better off zipping it than talking for the sake of talking.

rafaisthebest , 3/28/13 8:00 PM


Conspirator , 3/28/13 6:19 PM-this post of Conspirator makes it clear Lendl was speaking sense.
I too believe it is important for Muzz to be no. 2 otherwise I am sure Fed will ensure Nole, Rafa and Muzz are in the same half. Lendl did not say it but I am sure he meant it as it is an open secret that ATP does whatever Fed wants. Last year ATP/grand slam committee fixed Wimbledon and Olympics draws blatantly and shamelessly.
Considering that Fed has announced he wants year end no. 1 ranking this year and wants to win 2 slams, then if Rafa is no. 5 and Fed is no. 2, Fed is aiming for RG in addition to Wimbledon by ensuring the other three are in the other half and will most likely beat themselves out of contention.

holdserve , 3/28/13 8:02 PM


Saying the obvious is a tad stupid in my book...

phoenix , 3/28/13 8:03 PM


Yes, of course you can be counted upon to go into default mode: attack thin-skinned Rafa fans.

Stick to the argument, please, no need for personal insults. Thank you.

rafaisthebest , 3/28/13 8:04 PM




Saying the obvious is a tad stupid in my book...

phoenix , 3/28/13 8:03 PM

Thank you. My point exactly.

rafaisthebest , 3/28/13 8:05 PM


It has always puzzled me why Andy has never been more successful on clay having spent quite some time training in Spain when he was younger.

ed251137 , 3/28/13 8:08 PM


Look i think this is getting a little out of hand Lendl was asked a question, he responded
it was not controversial at all despite feeble attempts to make it so.
It actually wasn't stating the obvious for the sake of it, it was answering the question logically concerning seeding. And Voila!
He probably moved on to the next interview or took a pi** or went out to golf.
In short it WAS NOT A BIG DEAL.

Twinge , 3/28/13 8:10 PM


RITB,
ah, ok! :)

Phoenix,
about your "Rafael and Nadal" comment. I thought it was obvious that Rafa is not mentioned in that context because he is so much above the others on clay. Ritb made an honest mistake, I asked, she corrected herself... Please reread that exchange of comments.

danica , 3/28/13 8:16 PM


"It has always puzzled me why Andy has never been more successful on clay having spent quite some time training in Spain when he was younger..."

Look at how long it took him to get used to winning a slam Ed.
Anything `new`or untried spooks him for quite some time.
He wasn't there for very long and he likes to stick to what he knows longer than he should in many occasions.

Twinge , 3/28/13 8:17 PM


what did i do now, i thought i was tongue in cheek...

phoenix , 3/28/13 8:32 PM




Can't move well on it to win = no talent to win, that's my take. If you can't even move well enough on the surface, that means you can't master the surface, so to me, that means not enough or no talent to win on the surface. One may get lucky though and manage to win one or two titles on it, if the draw permits.

luckystar , 3/28/13 5:38 PM

I disagree with your take, @lucky. When I say Muzza cannot move on clay I do not mean he is the proverbial cow on ice. As you know, the differentials are very small at the top. If you can, I would recommend you watch his match with Ferru at RG2012. Muzza matched Ferru in the shot construction and stamina but the difference was........Muzza was not sliding as well as Ferru. It's the way you slide on clay and Muzza gets exposed in that department when he comes across the "clay court specialists". And like ed251137, I too have wondered why he never mastered this trait in Spain.

So for me, it is not cut and dried: he cannot move well on clay therefore he has no talent. No, he just lacks that "extra" sliding ability to put him in the specialists mix. He has been in a semi at RG, the draw broke for him but that was ever as far as he was going to go because he was guaranteed to meet a clay specialist in the final and he would have been exposed.

rafaisthebest , 3/28/13 8:33 PM


Murray is fat. That would decrease his chances on clay.

tethys , 3/28/13 8:35 PM


^^The physical issue with sliding.....
Have any of you noticed that Andy has ankle braces on both ankles?
Perhaps this inhibits his movement a little if there is some kind of congenital weakness there.
Andy can of course almost teleport himself round a court, but sliding on the clay would put some pressure on the ankles so maybe this is the answer, or one of em.

Twinge , 3/28/13 8:38 PM


If Rafa is no. 5, then there is only a 25% chance that Rafa will be in Muzzer's quarter.

Lendl would prefer it to be 0% with Rafa in the top 4.

#Smart

Conspirator , 3/28/13 8:39 PM


Being #2 does not safeguard Murray from ending up in the same half as 3 of the big 4.

nadline , 3/28/13 8:40 PM


Lendl actually paid Rafa the highest compliment by saying where Rafa falls in the draw is more important to Andy's results than Andy's own ranking and yet he is being criticized.

#Irony

Conspirator , 3/28/13 8:43 PM


Twinge , 3/28/13 8:38 PM

Aha! I noticed he wears braces but so do others as well, no? Didn't Roddick wear ankle braces as well? I thought this was more a preventative measure than protection for an existing defect. Some players tape their ankles heavily.

But those braces could explain why he does not slide as effortlessly as others........

rafaisthebest , 3/28/13 8:46 PM


"Murray is fat. That would decrease his chances on clay..."

Fat?!?
Who are you?
Christian bale from `The machinist`?
Give over please, oh and have a beef sandwich on me mate!

Twinge , 3/28/13 8:46 PM


Conspirator , 3/28/13 8:43 PM

Actually, my beef with Lendl is that he is paying too much attention to Rafa (and Nole and Fed), and not enough to other players who are perfectly capable of derailing Muzza's chances (on clay) apart from the "usual suspects".

rafaisthebest , 3/28/13 8:50 PM


yes but Andy is much better on clay than the other Andy who was unimpressive on it for like evah!
having these braces on both ankles will really dig in as a necessity so it looks like we may have an answer on the sliding.
Stamina, point construction etc Please Andy is one of the best for a reason.
But i also think he just hasn't been brought up on it that's the answer too, he really needs to go for it ankles and all.

Twinge , 3/28/13 8:51 PM


RITB, he was asked a question about seeding he answered it, really that is all.
Anyway Andy WILL improve on the red stuff, might even get somewhere towards the end of his career, or sooner, its another one of those.

Twinge , 3/28/13 8:54 PM


Just saw the score. Not watching the match as am at work. Murray about to clinch the first set. Hope he can close it.

holdserve , 3/28/13 8:57 PM


Listen, Muzza has made strides on clay. Can't remember with MC it was but he pushed Rafa for a set and a half. As I said, when I watched (I believe it was in the quarters) his mach against Ferru at RG last year I remember thinking: it's the movement. That was just it, just the movement, and it was that slight difference, he wasn't sliding effortlessly which is what you need on clay.

I am really looking forward to MC because it will show us the "additions" these players have made. Lendl was pretty proficient on clay so I have no doubt he has a lot to advise Muzza on........

rafaisthebest , 3/28/13 9:01 PM


Agreed. I look forward to seeing how Muzz and others compete on clay as long as Rafa wins.

#Vamos

Conspirator , 3/28/13 9:08 PM


Which one of the big boys, as some call them, would volunteer to meet Rafa in the Qtrs on any surface?

nadline , 3/28/13 9:11 PM


I was overlooking the ankle problem - it would account for the difficulty he has with movement on the clay. Unlike Djokovic who was brought up on the ski slopes and slides around as though he were going through the poles in the slalom.

ed251137 , 3/28/13 9:17 PM


Did not Muzz train in Spain?

holdserve , 3/28/13 9:20 PM


Is no one watching the Muzz-Cilic match?

holdserve , 3/28/13 9:25 PM


nadline , 3/28/13 9:11 PM

Yes, I am a dyed in the wool Rafan but I would have to say, none. And it speaks volumes to hear Rafa say he does not care what ranking he is, as long as he is in the draw. He is THAT confident.

How comforting can it be going to RG with high hopes of being in the final and you find yourself meeting Rafa in the quarters and knowing that's your tournament done and dusted right there?

Pretty dispiriting, I think.

rafaisthebest , 3/28/13 9:25 PM


Muzz up 6-4, 3-1. Looks like it is going to be a straight sets demolition.

holdserve , 3/28/13 9:26 PM



http://www.dnaindia.com/sport/report_has-returning-rafael-nadal-lost -the-aura_1796567

"Asked yesterday whether Nadal would still inspire the same sense of awe in lesser-ranked opponents, Murray replied: "I don't think straight away. The first weeks and months back, you would think people will be expecting him not to be at his highest level. They will believe they will be able to upset him. Over time, that aura comes with winning, confidence."

nadline , 3/28/13 9:35 PM


Don't worry, @nadline, Muzza has changed his mind I am sure, about Rafa's aura I mean. If not, he should consult Lendl.

On the current match, Muzza just got issued with a time violation warning and this is how the twitterati saw it:

RT ST_BTBaseline: "Hah. ESPN says they went back and looked at the tape: Murray took 22 seconds when he was issued that time violation. #atp"

#Farcecontinues

rafaisthebest , 3/28/13 9:39 PM


ritb,

Chris Fowler and PMac were discussing the enforcement of the 25 second rule. PMac said that the umpires should have some discretion for crowd noise or maybe the ball boys not getting the balls to the players or any other instance that might interfere with a player being able to comply with the rule.

That's what we were discussing the other night on another topic thread. There has to be some discretion!

Nativenewyorker , 3/28/13 9:44 PM


#TimeRuleEnfarcement
#BlameFed

Conspirator , 3/28/13 9:46 PM


Groan, now Lendl says Dimipova can be #1 if he got fitter.......

I say it's not fitness or lack thereof that's hampering him, it's his head, or lack thereof! He crumples at important points:

http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2013/03/lendl-fit-dimitrov-c ould-be-world-no-1/46924/#.UVSrWldRCDd

Okay, let's say Lendl is right. It just proves what I said on another thread: these young guns are spoilt, why isn't Grigor putting in the hours in training? If it's obvious to Lendl, why isn't it obvious to Grigor?

rafaisthebest , 3/28/13 9:52 PM


Yeh! Muzza won in straight sets! Back to work!

holdserve , 3/28/13 9:56 PM



#Thumbs up to hash tags
#Conspirator

nadline , 3/28/13 9:58 PM


Bit of a scrappy old match and why oh why does Andy always start SOOOO slowly?
But a win nonetheless. Hope serve better by next match though, % on first was poor and winners off second plain awful.
Come on Andy!

deuce , 3/28/13 10:03 PM


It's not a demolition, holdserve. Murray had to struggle to hold serve in the first set, and he's struggling to hold his serve for a good ten minutes in one important game in the second set. Even in the last game, Marin outplayed him at the net and the game went to deuce a few time before Murray finally won the match. Marin was also unlucky in that 2-3 game in the second set when he had BP but a net cord saved Murray from being broken back.

None of them played well IMO, but Murray played the important points and games better when they mattered, outfoxing Marin to win the points. Marin had some successes when moving to the net but I feel he changed his tactics too late to have any effects on the outcome of the match. It's obvious Marin needs more practice on the execution of his shots, his forehand and his touches at the net in particular.

Congrats to Murray, for getting the job done even when not playing at his best level.

luckystar , 3/28/13 10:13 PM


When the stats went up I was surprised to see Cilic's count was much higher than Andy's but he also had a correspondingly higher UE count.

Agree, Deuce, that 1st serve percentage has to improve.

When was Andy given a time warning? Missed that moment - I was probably pouring another drink. Hope it wasn't after the 36-stroke rally.

ed251137 , 3/28/13 10:18 PM


Cilic made far too many errors.

nadline , 3/28/13 10:26 PM


Congrats Andy. No. 2 is eating for you.

Sorry for Cilic.

#PeaceNadline

Conspirator , 3/28/13 10:35 PM


ed I think RITB said Andy was given a time warning after 22 seconds...Lol.
Noticed Cilic can't bend those knees, too tall I guess. He knew he couldn't out defend Andy so was really going for his shots, so huge number of UEs, though. Andy was far too defensive at times though....hmm. As Twingey said he's still hanging on to those bad old ways.

deuce , 3/28/13 10:42 PM


No. 2 is eating for you? What?

#BlameSpellCheck

Conspirator , 3/28/13 11:27 PM


Lol Conspirator, Rogie is now "eating" for Andy. How kind. Andy is getting a bit beefy so this might help....;)
#TooKind

deuce , 3/29/13 8:55 AM


Cilic still has a lot to learn and improved on. He has to learn to move forward more and get comfortable at the net. He was serving very well this tournament but when facing Murray, it seemed that his confidence suffered and he started serving poorly. I guess after so many defeats at the hand of Murray, mentally Cilic was affected. Murray wasn't even playing that well to start with, he just done enough to get the win, that's what a great player would do, credit where credit is due! Well done Murray!

Murray vs Gasquet, mouth watering encounter, I hope.

luckystar , 3/29/13 9:03 AM



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