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Djokovic pulled out

"Djokovic pulled out."

This just makes Troicki's performance yesterday even more embaracing.
What a wasted opportunity to beat the world #1.
Truly one of the greatest chokers.

embarrassing not embaracing. What was I thinking...

Why am I not surprised. 1.6 million reasons why he played the first two matches, isn't it? Novak wanted so badly to lose vs. Troicki, but the choker just couldn't handle taking the match. I suppose Djokovic didn't want to get a good spanking from Tsonga? This does not bode well for a No.1 player? Now onto the WTF to collect another fat check and/or title.

If this was premeditated it stinks. The question has to be asked why, if carrying an injury, did he decide to play Paris in the first place. Purely for a bit of match play before London?

OMG Yesterday he was very clear that it was not for the money. He made very sure he was heard and now he is hurt? I wanted to give him the benefit of doubt but this seals the deal. He is a moneymaker and not a heartbreaker , His fanbase will always stay secundairy as to Feds. Never will he gain the love of people with an attitude like this. Horrible.

Sienna, Just yesterday I said djokovic could never be loved like Roger because of this type of behaviour and of course a lot of replies followed downplaying Roger.

Djokovic is greedy. The true shame was the bending over by Troicki.

I am very surprised by his behaviour lately. Have tried to give him the benefit of the doubt too when he retired from Davis Cup with a bad back and then a few days later he was playing football with some friends. I found that odd but apparently it did not affect his injured back?? That's what I read anyway.

I would not be surprised if he was fit again for WTF - maybe that is a bit harsh but I just don't believe all the stuff that we are given about him anymore.

I hope Tsonga reaches the final. Does a walkover count as a loss?

Ha ha ha ha...
Oh... You are killing me... Keep it coming please...
Oh... Have you heard... Fed was injured in USO... Looool!
He was plying for 1,6 mill... Who wouldn't? Fed? Guy is asking for 20.000 euro pocket money for Mirka to play in Paris.... Who is greedy here?
It's so easy to hate... Isn't it..?

Well at best we can say that Nole may have acted selfishly here but many great players are. The shame is that there will be one less match today.

Djoovic is now 69 wins and 4 losses for the year. A great year but not quite the invincible one that everyone has stated. Federer had 81-4 in 2005 or 2006 and nadal has come close to that as well. This combined with the fact that the year isn't over and that djokovic will inevitably notch up another loss or two in London means that djoko will go down as having a great 2011, not on of the best seasons ever though.

And before anyone gets on my back about the fact that he was injured and didn't lose, this is a moot point. If djoko doesn't have the physical stamina to last the season then that is akin to losing.

"Does a walkover count as a loss?"

It doesn't. And Tsonga also doens't get a win for this match.
Smart cookie. Plays against clowns who knows he can win against and when a beatdown is coming he retires.

I think we need to give these players the benefit of the doubt. That being said, Troicki's performance was positively dismal yesterday.

It must be noted that if the ATP didn't expect the players to show up hurt for that extra $$, they wouldn't offer it. Cash is a powerful motivator, as they well know.

I bet most of the plebians that post on here would get out of their phlegm encrusted
death beds for a $1.6 million pay day!
Yes Siree, out with the drip & nappies & if needs be crawl onto the god@_+n court.
Don't kid youselves you wouldn't for a nice chunk of dough like that!

Fogninni retired against Novak... it was not victory... stream would be equal with record... next was loss in FO... so the "smart" retirement is normal when it is against Novak??
@willmw...
Statistically that's correct but... new record in Masters and opponents...
We can always google the opponents of Fed in 2005... and compare them with Novak's opponent. By that criteria this season is really historical. Note, pls...I didn't say it is best.

"We can always google the opponents of Fed in 2005"

Not necessary Zare,
They will NOT compare to what Novak faced all year.
The fact that we would have to google them at all is the first indication of that.

Federer's 2006 > Djokovic's 2011.

Although if Djokovic wins the WTF I would have to give it to him.

should not have played to begin with

I find the withdrawal strange myself, as a Nole fan. 1.6 million dollars is a huge incentive and all, but I think London is what is on his mind right now. Or it could be both. But we can never know, we aren't out there playing.

As for what the Fed fans say, well, Federer did something similar in 2009 I think, withdrawing from his quarter against Blake. Djokovic has not been winning everything there was to offer by beating clowns only. He's done the hard work as well.

"Sienna, Just yesterday I said djokovic could never be loved like Roger because of this type of behaviour and of course a lot of replies followed downplaying Roger."

Yes, seeing as you didn't have any constructive reply to the criticisms of Federer, you use the tactic of attacking the act of "downplaying" Roger instead of showing how those criticisms were wrong.

I don't have to downplay Roger and that is not my intention. Of course Djokovic is NEVER gonna be loved as much as Federer, we established this ages ago. Does it matter? I don't think so. The thing is, you are looking at every possible opportunity to prove how Federer>Nole and this has all started after Nole had this awesome season. They have a term for people like you - "fanboys". Looking for a chance to prove your Roger always stands superior, because you're insecure.

And just for the record, the withdrawal has me slightly pissed off. While I don't now of what condition Nole is actually in physically, I just feel he didn't need to withdraw, having started and played two rounds.

Hehe... sampra... well I am little bit disappointed also... but ...he knows best:)
And 1,6 mills is... well... huge pile of money :))))
As I know shoulder problem is an inflammatory of that old injury... probably not healed completely...
But comments about premeditated... piss me even more. Troicki bending over??
OMG...that what is Wawa doing for years... bending over with vaseline ???
What if he had retired b4 Troicki match... than we should see here lot of "fixing, tanking" ect,ect comments...LOL!
@bleck...
"Smart cookie. Plays against clowns"....4:1 vs Fed??? You are talking about him???
...and Rafa???... How many matches vs top ten or twenty players... google it before you write something like this.

zare, "4:1 vs Fed??? You are talking about him???...and Rafa??"

I could swear he is 10-14 against Federer and 13-16 against nadal...

So the DJokovic year is marked by this exit. Thinking bout the mony is very wrong for a so called Great. You can make mistakes like Fed did in exho again Sampras in 2007..but this was deliberate risk he took. Unforgivable.

samprallica: Fedhags who are Fanboys.

bleck , 11/11/11 4:53 PM

So funny,,,,,,,

Come 1st January 2012, Nole will not have the luxury of granting W/Os and retirements because he can only lose points for the best part of 2012.

samprallica,

the season is over for Novak, I don't think WTF 2011 has any weight in his mind. His next stop is AO 2012.

And yes, he decided to play for 1.6 mill $, who wouldn't? I'm sure scoretracker, ed12343253654332435645 and other hypocrites would've played for 5kg of free broccolis.

Whatever Novak does is not good enough.

When he was retiring from his matches, people hated him for that. When he plays with injury and wins, gets paid for that, then it's "he shouldn't have played and surely he played only to collect the money" (he deserved btw).
HELLO!!!
Novak always stressed that his health comes first (re: retirements). He said that in Serbia more times than I care to remember.
1.6 mills is change comparing to what he already accumulated on his bank account. That's about the monies he already donated to charities, if not less. His wins this year only, got him more than 10. Was he really so much in need of some extra cash if his health, and possibly his career are on the line?
Or, consider this scenario - he appeared on court, played a few games, and then retired. I would be the first to say he came to just collect his bonus. With two wins under his belt...

rfzr, Id defo get out my bed on a cold winters morning for 1.6mill$ :)
Its not like NovakD is chasing the points.

Nole's got nothing to prove, Nole fans. Just ignore :)

@ed, ,
samprallica: Fedhags who are Fanboys.

ed251137, 11/11/11 6:39 PM

You truily are something else. Wow, was I wrong about you. I thought you were a fair poster but all you do is play sides, attack under the guise of pretending to be peaceful with your utterances of advice, just like your other cohort, and you push the fire big time, under the petensee that you mean well. What if Fed fans were to apply "Nadal hags who are fanboys to you and the Nadal fans, would you like it? I think it would only be fair. I'm shocked that I even considered you a likeable person. I was so wrong. anyway, carry on, it works for you so why stop a winning combination? BTW, I'm not blind to the innuendoes you cast my way, when you're counselling NNY, but I overlook them, coz i try to show some respect for someone who could be my grandmother.

@rfzr:
And yes, he decided to play for 1.6 mill $, who wouldn't? I'm sure scoretracker, ed12343253654332435645 and other hypocrites would've played for 5kg of free broccolis.

rfzr, 11/11/11 7:20 PM

Don't call me a hypocrite. I wouldn't sin my soul for money. And, if I did, it would have to be billions. There are more important things in life than money, albeit it helps. Novak's got tons of money, he didn't need the $1.6 mil, he's just greedy.

I'm not you, so don't judge me by your yardstick. It's obvious that Novak is just milking the money, so stop being blind. All of his losses are now due to injury. If he's that injured, how could he have played soccer just a few days after DC, when he retired against DelPo? Then after, six weeks rest, he's still claiming he's injured, after demolishing his QF opponent 6-2, 6-2, at Basel then tanking to Nishikori, coz he didn't want to lose to Fed? Now, he's back to Paris, just a few days later after being soooo injured, and is playing for $1.6 mil. He tried to lose to Troicki, who couldn't take the match that was being given to him on a platter, and then gives Tsonga a walkover, is indicative of someone who's only playing for the money.

If you want to keep on your blinders despite all Novak's been doing, and has done in the past, then so be it, but don't call others hypocrites for speaking up on what they feel to be a lot of hypocrisy and lies on Novak's part. His injuries IMO, are being faked to get himself out of some sticky situations.

Now that Novak's got the money, he'll be able to rest and prepare, coz he's gunning for the WTF title to round out his year, but if he meets up with tough competition, one thing's for sure, the old injury card will be pulled out. A leopard does not change its spots, and Novak's histrionics precedes him. I'm not blogging to be liked, or to make this place my social club. I come here to air my views on tennis and that includes the players. Whether you like what I say or not, is immaterial to me. It's my prerogative to write what I feel is dishonest and a mockery to the sport and unbecomikng behavior from the No. 1 player. Why can't he behave in a manner that befits the position he now holds, rather than make a mockery of the title. The head that wears the crown should wear it with pride, which Novak isn't doing.

I suppose those who are applauding Novak's actions didn't pay for the tickets to see him and Tsonga play, which is why they can write these holier than thou statements that he has nothing to prove. This is not about proving anything, this is about poor sportsmanship. Had they paid for a ticket, I'm 100% sure they'd be fuming and foaming at the mouth. Those are the hypocrites you should be addresing, not those of us who speak up.

"coz he didn't want to lose to Fed? "
hahaha... man... you are hilarious... after this statement you are champ of this site!!!
Your guy uses injury every time....and that hypothetical mono... that I really doubt he had :))
3 days ago he pool out that he was injured in USO? Your double standards are unbelievable.
How many times ppl bought ticket to see Fed... and he withdrawn from tournament?
Product of Mirka's marketing was wearing crown thanks to fixing draws... fixing scheduling... every blind person can see it now... lol...
Enjoy and gloat... he can still win sometimes... when big boys are not there...

There's only ONE time Fed ever has withdrawn from a tournament that he played in. The key words are 'played in'. Yes, he has withdrawn from tournaments but always PRIOR TO, with a fair amount of notice, but except for Bercy in 2008, he has not withdrawn while playing in a torunament. That's the big difference between Fed, and Novak, Nadal and Murray. So stop with the double standards talk, coz you don't cut it.If you'd check you'll see that what I'm saying is very much the way it's been for Fed. he plays while hurt, but does not say he lost due to an injury.

scoretracker
Thank you for sticking up for Fed.

Fed is the one who is always talking about the game of tennis. His dream is to leave tennis in a better state then when he entered. Such a marvelous philosofy. He never retires from a match only one retirement from a tournement. It is almost more impressive the 23 slam semies in a row or 10 finales in a row. WITHOUT MISSING ONE. It is just in the mind/ Impossible is nothing. That commercial was brought up by Nike just because Fed was in TMF mode.

PRIOR TO... thats correct... but that does not change anything...
I am living in Swiss for 9 years already and I never got the chance to buy ticket for Basell... in 2008 I was on Monaco finale... I got my ticket five months earlier...
So you understand what I am talking about...
I saw Fed and Nole in DC match in Geneva... ticket bought two months earlier.
Got it???
He don't use the excuses?? Why the hell he is mentioning the USO injury now???
C'mon man... get real!

Are you blind or stupid? Of course there is a difference. When you step out of a tournement and ther can be another player enetred oin a wildcard, then that shouldmake a wor+d pof difference. You buy ticket for the tournement not the player because you donot know how it is scheduled,

Therefor the Murray withdraw inBasel was just in time because Haase get to play a wildcard and people did see a atp tennismatch.

I can make my point without resorting to nasty personal insults, such as calling someone "blind" or "stupid". I have given Nole the benefit of the doubt for a while now, but this withdrawal concerns me. One could say that he did it for the money. If you enter a tournament, play two easy rounds and then withdraw when you are about to face a very tough opponent, then you do leave yourself open to criticism.

I have always agreed with Cheryl that players should be given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to injuries, but this is getting to be a bit much. It does not look good for the #1 player to do things like this. When Nole lost to Nishikori in Basel, it was supposedly due to a recurrence of his shoulder injury. Is this the way it's going to be? Every loss has to be because of injury? There is such a thing as accepting losses and not resorting to the injury excuse time and again.

If there was a real problem, as Nole claimed in his loss at Basel, then why not just skip Paris and prepare for London? Rafa announced that he would not be playing in Paris before the event. That's the way to do it.

That's just my feeling and it is not said with hate or meanness. I don't want to engage in the hatefest that has been going on here. There's no reason to make it personal.

I suppose there's selectivity in everything that's written by the righteous. When Fed fans are referred to as 'you people', that's not hatefest. Nor, when we're called Fedhags being Fanboys, that's very good and overlooked. How very magnanimous. some people will write anything if they have a keyboard to make themselves appear perfect.