• Nadal dismantles Federer, sets up Berdych encounter

    3/15/13 12:38 PM | Cheryl Murray
    Nadal dismantles Federer, sets up Berdych encounter Rafael Nadal was ruthlessly efficient in his quarterfinal match against Roger Federer, adding another win to his impressive head-to-head against the Swiss Maestro.

    With Rafael Nadal seeded 5th after his seven-month layoff from tennis, the possibility loomed that he would land in Roger Federer's quarter of the draw. It was a tantalizing prospect, as the two men had not played a single match since Indian Wells in 2012.

    But once again, the clash failed to live up to the hype surrounding it, with Nadal thrashing Federer 6-4, 6-2. The scoreline paid testimony to two things. First, Federer is nursing a tweaked back. In the presser, the Swiss indicated that his service motion wasn't hampered, but his movement clearly was. Second, Nadal was simply playing well. The Spaniard shook off the last remnants of match rust against Ernests Gulbis and came out with confidence on Thursday night.

    Truly, the only competitive part of the match was beginning of the first set, But by the eighth game, Nadal secured his first break, sunk his teeth into the match and never let go.

    The second set felt as though it were going to be over almost before it began. Nadal raced out to a 3-0 lead and he had points to make it 4-0, but didn't convert. In a rare lapse of concentration, the Spaniard dropped his guard very briefly and allowed Federer his only break of the match. But in the end, it really made no difference. The Spaniard broke again for 5-2 and had no trouble serving it out.

    Nadal will play the big-hitting, in-form Tomas Berdych in the semifinals.

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"I played a fantastic first set," Nadal said. "The second set was strange. Roger didn't fight as usual. Probably he had some problems and he didn't feel enough comfortable to keep fighting."
Even if that was obvious to everyone, it's not cool to point it out.

chr18 , 3/15/13 12:57 PM

had he (Rafa) not mentioned anything about Fed's impairment he would also be criticised for not having mentioned it. You can't please everybody; more so in the case of Rafa.

Shireling , 3/15/13 1:22 PM

You would say something like that, chr19, wouldn't you? It was actually a kind thing to say, to acknowledge. Only those with permanent anti-Rafa glasses were going to take it the bad way.

At any rate, two things:
Chr19, time to change your pseudonym to chr19.
Rafa has been very impressive in his come back after 7 months off and 11.5 months off the hardcourt. I hope he will play this more aggressive style of tennis pretty at all times. We saw how well it worked in the spring and summer 2008 and 2010. Let's see it all year.

chlorostoma , 3/15/13 1:25 PM

The cool thing to say would have been, my knee pains, I am rusty but still I beat the "best in history".

holdserve , 3/15/13 1:28 PM

Come off it chris18, didn't Fed blame Stanford for losing Davis Cup?

deuce , 3/15/13 1:29 PM

Awww, cloro, you beat me to it!!! You must have read my mind. chr10-19 somehow doesn't have the same ring to it. I actually was also only going to go with chr19. It is much more understated yet still communicates the thought.


Rafa was paying respect to Fed both in that statement and on his muted celebration at the end of the match. Only a fedbot would twist it otherwise.

Even though the score was lopsided, the points these two construct with their contrasting and multidimensional play is simply unmatchable. I will miss Naderer matched. They will never be matched I don't believe.


Conspirator , 3/15/13 2:14 PM

chr18................Rafa is simply stating the truth!! You Federer opologists are incorrigible!!!

However, my take is, whatever back pain Federer was having was not that bad to turn up to the match, and perhaps he felt he might still have a chance to beat Rafa seeing the way Rafa played Gulbis. But when Fed realised how ready Rafa was to battle, he simply just gave in. He knew for sure if he went toe to toe with Rafa, Rafa would break his back for good!!!


Monalysa , 3/15/13 2:30 PM

chr18 , 3/15/13 12:57 PM

When Roger speaks his mind, he's being honest, unlike Rafa. When Rafa speaks his mind or makes an honest observation, it's not cool. Wow crap18, you never cease to amaze exposing your true colours - whatever that is. If Rafa din't point it out, you would have said "shame on Rafa for now being honest about it". You are truely despicable!

jean , 3/15/13 3:08 PM

Can we just all agree that it's chr19 so he doesn't get confused?

Better yet, assuming he agrees, Ricky/Cheryl, can you guys just change is username to chr19? I'm sure that would be his preference anyways.


Conspirator , 3/15/13 3:19 PM

regardless of a back injury, any back injury, Rafa's been away from hard courts for almost a year! And he only really had Gulbis as a true challenge this week before the fed match. He took Fed apart efficiently and done the job like any other player would have. I thought his quotes were showing respect to fed tbh. Can't win them all over i suppose GOAT

rafakid , 3/15/13 3:50 PM

It's not cool to say that Fed stopped fighting in the 2nd set. It's like saying he tanked or quit. It's insulting. I'm not saying he did or did not. Only he knows. Fed showed up and took his beating like a man : no whining, arguments with chair umpire, mto or peeing before opponent served for match, etc.

chr18 , 3/15/13 4:30 PM

According to chr18 ( or is it chr19?) Fed kept fighting in the second set. So Rafa should have said that Fed kept fighting but was crushed. Fake GOAT crushed by real GOAT.
But Rafa is a gentleman and did not state what is so painfully obvious to chr19. Is chr19 a masochist? Why does he want to shout from the rooftops that his idol was perfectly fit and kept fighting but lost to his MASTER?

holdserve , 3/15/13 4:46 PM

Ok..........if Rafa cannot say it, then I will.

Fed stopped fighting in the second set...............there!!!

And by the by....................Fed had an argument with not only the chair umpire but also with the chair supervisor in his match with Wawa!!.....................and his argument was BASELESS!!!......................amd do you really want to go there.........peeing and mto??!!!!!

Monalysa , 3/15/13 4:49 PM

hmm. I didn't find that comment insulting. He was obviously saying that something was wrong with Federer and he couldn't evaluate his own form as "outstanding" when Federer was clearly ailing.

cherylmurray , 3/15/13 4:50 PM

chr19, Rafa did not say Fed STOPPED fighting. He said Fed didn't fight as usual meaning he seemed unable to run at every ball or something like that. It's Rafa's English that you fail to understand. The last thing Rafa would do is undermine or insult Fed. I understand your frustration with Rafa for dispatching your idol but at least try to be fair and leave the guy in peace to celebrate his victory and stop trashing Rafa to annoy his fans.

natashao , 3/15/13 4:51 PM

the only thing keeping this thread alive is chr18's (or19 or whatvever) comments, since there is not that much to add regarding Fed being effectively dispatched.

Shireling , 3/15/13 5:02 PM

cherylmurray, 3/15/13 4:50 PM

well said...

natashao , 3/15/13 5:04 PM

Chr19 continious his woes, taking every possible cheap shot againts Rafa as usual.

everybody is doing the hashtag so let met try it too.

#CryBaby ....nyaha...looks good.

Raindrops , 3/15/13 5:08 PM

So saying Fed didn't seem comfortable = Fed tanked the match. At least Rafa didn't say "I think Fed lost because it was so dark that he couldn't see the ball!!" or "Fed would have won had he flung his water bottles at the ball kids" or "..he should have used expletives at the umpire and argued than he'd have won..".

Shall I go on?

jean , 3/15/13 5:25 PM

Fed didnt argue with umpire? Fed didnt take toilet break? Fed was so rude to the umpire that he was fined for that (at USO 2009). Fed was physically well enough to play; he was able to get his first serve at 65%; and so he's not physically impaired that he couldn't move and decided to play. There's nothing heroic or brave about it; Rafa also goes out there to play when not at 100% physically many times and got beaten. Even when he's playing on one leg, eg Rotterdam 2009 final, he still didnt quit but carried on till the end. They're both professional sportsmen and so acted professionally.

luckystar , 3/15/13 5:37 PM

chr19, any reasonable person will agree that Rafa was implying that Roger wasn't 100% fit and knew he wouldn't win so didn't have the fighting spirit. Rafa actually said that he doesn't think Roger was 100% fit.

nadline , 3/15/13 5:46 PM

Some food for thought

March 15th, 2013

Did You Know Rafael Nadal Has 107 Wins Over The Current Top 10, Winning 72% Of Those Matches? [Chart]
by Tom Gainey

Congratulations to Rafael Nadal. Last night Nadal demolished his wounded rival Roger Federer 64, 62 in the quarterfinal round at the BNP Paribas Open. Nadal?s win improves his record against the Swiss great to 19-10.

Federer shouldn?t feel too bad because Nadal has just as many wins against current World No. 1 Novak Djokovic. And he has lopsided records against David Ferrer, world No. 6 Tomas Berdych and in fact the rest of the players at the very top.

Overall, Nadal has won his last 11 matches against his fellow Top 10s since Federer beat him last year at Indian Wells.

Here?s the breakdown of Rafa?s head to heads against the Top 10 players:

Rafael Nadal vs.

1 Novak Djokovic 19 14 .......57.6%
2 Roger Federer 19 10 ........65.5%
3 Andy Murray 13 5 ............72.2%
4 David Ferrer 17 4 ............81.0%
6 Tomas Berdych 12 3...... .80.0%
7 Juan M Del Potro 7 3..... .70.0%
8 Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 7 3 ...70.0%
9 Janko Tipsarevic 3 0 ......100%
10 Richard Gasquet 10 0 ..100%

107 wins 42 losses 71.8%

nadline , 3/15/13 7:02 PM

I just cant believe this is real! Cuold you believe that Rafa is currently #5 and is still THE MAN to beat?!!!!!

This just goes to show how incredible the guy is.............and yet..........he stills gets NO credit!!!


Monalysa , 3/15/13 7:44 PM

no whining, arguments with chair umpire, mto or peeing before opponent served for match, etc.
chr19, 3/15/13 4:30 PM

chr19 must have missed Fed's meltdown with the umpire against Wawa challenging his own serve after it was called in and after helost the point.

chr19 must have missed Fed's mto vs Benneteau at Wimby when Benneteau had him on the ropes.

chr19 must have missed fed peeing against Davydenko at AO when he admitted afterwards to stalling for the sun to move out of the way.

Fed deserves better fans than you chr19. You do him a disservice with your drivel.


Conspirator , 3/15/13 7:54 PM

1 Novak Djokovic 19 14 .......57.6%

out of 19, 13 wins come from clay surface, 68.4%, so what you are saying really is that nadal is better clay court player than novak.

rfzr , 3/15/13 8:10 PM

^^^ although for the above infractions, a fedbot fanboy like chr19 will do just fine.

Hmmm, chr19 is much more succinct name. I like it. Cheryl/Dimon, what's the update on the name change. When can you make this happen? I trust he doesn't like his name not being current. It's bad enough his man got taken to the wood shed but this is just rubbing salt in the wound, no?


Conspirator , 3/15/13 8:11 PM

@rfzr, only 3 of djokovic's wins are on non-hard court matches so... well novak is better on hard that is true but rafa is better on clay and grass that is 100% true as well..

vamosrafa , 3/15/13 8:16 PM

watch out for rafa's is soon going to be more dangerous than it ever was...rafa has SURELY worked a lot on his backhand..if he can beef up his backhand and hit it likw OZ 2009, djokovic murray will find it exceedingly hard to get past rafa

vamosrafa , 3/15/13 8:18 PM

rfart, 3/15/13 8:10 PM

What don't you understand?

Rafa is 12-2 (86%) on clay, 2-1 (67%) on grass vs Nole.

Nole is 11-5 (69%) on hard vs Rafa.

So Rafa is better on two of three surfaces and the 86% domination on clay is much higher than Nole's 69% advantage on hard court.

So Rafa is better period. PLUS2X slams PLUS winning record vs Nole, Fed and Muzz.

C'mon man, even you can figure that much out, no?


Conspirator , 3/15/13 8:23 PM

I love playing with the fedbot fanbots even if it is easy.


Conspirator , 3/15/13 8:25 PM

^^^ fanboys


Conspirator , 3/15/13 8:28 PM

Conspirator, no rush it might soon be chr20.

nadline , 3/15/13 8:32 PM

novak is also better on carpet as he has more wins over nadal. btw 2nd week of wimbledon = clay court.

rfzr , 3/15/13 8:37 PM

Why would anyone be surprised at chr19's comments? Nothing Rafa says will be okay for someone like him. He's just not happy that the h2h is now 19-10! Also, last year when Fed beat Rafa easily in the semis, it was Fed fans who would not even admit that this was not Rafa at his best. No excuses! At least Rafa was decent enough to allow that Fed wasn't at his best and not able to fight like he would. Who would know Fed better than the guy who has beat him the most?

Rafa's celebration was not his usual one, out of respect for Fed. So why not give him credit for that? Or would chr19 prefer Rafa to jump in the air the way he did after he beat Gulbis and pump his fists? Rafa had the decency to not shove the loss in Fed's face. The fact that chr19 can't acknowledge it, is simply because he's a sore loser who hates Rafa.

Nativenewyorker , 3/15/13 8:41 PM

good one conspirator. plus, ...nadal djokovic have never played on 'carpet' ! Rafa has beaten djokovic in a hard court slam and in the olympics , novak has done literally nothing substantial against rafa on clay...the percentages pointed out by conspirator present a clearer picture, rafa is DOMINANT.

vamosrafa , 3/15/13 8:56 PM

1 Novak Djokovic 19 14 .......57.6%

out of 19, 13 wins come from clay surface, 68.4%, so what you are saying really is that nadal is better clay court player than novak.
rfzr, 3/15/13 8:10 PM

So doesn't that count?

nadline , 3/15/13 9:01 PM

even if rfzr confused carpet with indoor hard , he is wrong there as well ! rafa leads 2-1 on indoor hard courts with all matches being played in the World Tour finals !

Even if wimbledon is a clay court in the 2nd week (which is absurd to say ) , it is djokovic who should benefit the most because he has the worst balance on grass among the Fab four


vamosrafa , 3/15/13 9:01 PM

As a Fed fan, I think what Nadal showed was fine... no point in looking into it. Both were not at their best or in top form, and they both knew that.

Will we ever see another Fedal GS final?

aegis , 3/15/13 9:03 PM

I'll bet anything that Fed will play Miami. He thought he would win IW but now has to reconsider his points situation having lost 820 points at IW.

nadline , 3/15/13 9:42 PM

Well played our Rafa - vamos and good luck against Berdy in the semis.

schatz , 3/15/13 9:43 PM

Nadline................I bet so too! In his presser he left his options open by saying "who knows?"

Nadal is just causing confusion all over the place..................why doesnt he just crawl back from under the rock where he came?!! Things were sooooooo much simpler when he was away!!!! This Rafa is just a constant pain in every body's butt!!!! He's only #5, with a bad knee, and is causing all this raucus in the tennis world!!!sheeeeesh!!!

Monalysa , 3/15/13 9:52 PM

Roger on Rafa: ?He's not going to come back half broken?

Friday, March 15, 2013 /by Matt Cronin

After Rafael Nadal defeated Roger Federer in the Indian Wells quarterfinals, 6-4, 6-2, the world No. 2 said he never believed the Spaniard would play tentative tennis against him.

Nadal said after his three-set win over Ernests Gulbis that he would have to change his normal strategy against the Swiss because his movement was still limited due to a sore knee. The Spaniard returned to the tour last month after seven months off due to knee trouble. Nadal is currently 15-1 with two clay-court titles in his comeback.

?He's not going to come back if he's not well,? said Federer, who is dealing with a back injury. ?He's not going to come back half broken. I expected him to tear through the clay. I expected him to be tough here, which he shows to be. No question, he's a bit careful at times with his movement. That's totally normal. [He] hasn't played for some time on hard court. I don't know if it's careful or if it's just getting used to it again. But we're talking about slow clay courts. He can return from way back in the court.

?It's not like on a hard court where you have to react super-fast. And even that would be no problem for him, otherwise he wouldn't have come back on tour. So I don't understand the talk in the first place after the three tournaments he played on clay.?

Federer, who is not scheduled to play again until Madrid in May, left the door slightly open to changing his schedule.

?I'll probably maintain my schedule, but you never know,? he said.

nadline , 3/15/13 11:00 PM


That pretty much says it all.

Let me guess, Nole is better than Rafa on jello, moon rock, pixie dust, cheese, gold and all other surfaces that tennis is not played on.


Conspirator , 3/16/13 2:14 AM

What time is the Rafa Berdy match? Is t 6:00 PM local time?

sanju , 3/16/13 2:19 AM


It will be played at 12:00 noon pacific time.

Nativenewyorker , 3/16/13 2:40 AM

So funny... if the Wimbledon court plays like a clay court in the second week, then Fed was also winning Wimbledon on clay! No one won Wimbledon during the first week right? But how come Fed couldn't beat Rafa at the clay Masters and RG but won at Wimbledon in 2006-2007 against Rafa??

Come to think of it, four of Rafa's five wins on the hard courts over Nole were on fast hard courts: TMC 2007 Shanghai; 2008 Beijing Olympics; USO2010 and WTF 2010 London. Out of Rafa's 11 hard court titles, six were on fast hard courts (if we take Canada as medium to slow court): Madrid 2005; Beijing 2005; Dubai 2006, Beijing Olympics 2008; USO2010 and Tokyo 2010. Rafa is not as bad on the quick courts as some want to believe he is.

Nole's 11 wins over Rafa on the hard courts, only 5 were on fast hard courts; notice too three of which - Cincy, Paris and WTF - were all won during 2009 after Rafa came back from his knee injury. Rafa also won their only encounter on fast grass at Queens in 2008.

If Rafa is a clay court specialist, then I can also say that Nole is a hard court specialist. His winning % on other surfaces weren't as good as Rafa's on surfaces other than clay.

luckystar , 3/16/13 4:54 AM

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