Rafa has a 16-1 DC W-L record (94.1%).
Muzz is 14-1 (93.3%).
Boris Becker (41-3 (92.7%).
Borg was 37-3 (92.5%).
Roy Emerson 21-2 (91.3%).
Arthur Ashe was 27-5 (84.4%).
Johnny Mac 41-8 (83.7%).
Nalby 23-5 (82.1%).
Agassi 30-6 (83.3%).
Vilas 45-10 (81.8%).
Federer 30-7 (81.1%).

#Interesting

You have to take into account that Muzz doesn't play premier league DC.

Excellent point nadline, thanks!

Nole's career record is 19-7 (73.1%) but since 2010 (ie. his rebirth), he is 7-1 (87.5%).

Compare to their GS and Masters Series W-L pcts:

Rafa 88% GS, 83% MS
Muzz 80%, 71%
Becker 75%, n/a
Borg 90%, n/a
Emerson, n/a
Ashe 77%, n/a
JMac 82%, n/a
Nalby 70%, 63%
Andre 81%, n/a
Vilas 76%, n/a
Fed 87%, 78%

Only Fed has a lower W-L pct. in DC compared to GS W-L pct.

#NotAPriority
#StanfordsFault
#Shrug

Sampras?

about bringing up Rogers Davis Cup record:


58 matches.
43 wins.
39 singles matches.

19 doubles matches despite, not being a doubles player.


Participation in 73% of all ties since his 1st in ?99.


Participation in 3 ties (out of 6 possible) outside of Europe since his first tie, which is WAY more than any other top player (Nadal = 0/5, Djokovic = 1/7, Murray = 1/5).


Participation indiscriminate of surface; indoor, outdoor, carpet, hard, grass, clay. Other top players are not so unfussy.

^^^^tennisnba, and this from someone who, normally cannot string two words in English.

Conspirator, I believe that fed's Davis cup record is 32-7, not 30-7.
http://www.daviscup.com/en/players/player/profile.aspx?playerid =10019424

@nadline, LOL ! not sure how the heck does tennisnba manage to come up with those broken sentences lol lol...so fake

and for fed's davis cup record, it is good but his participation has been very limited since he rose to the top of the game. Stupid tennisnba is always ill-informed lol. NOw post the number of ties and matches played between 99-2003, the selfishness started to creep in in 2003 primarily.

nobody is denying how great a champ federer is, he a precious gift to tennis. However, nobody can deny he has been selfish regarding davis cup participation whereas nadal and even djokovic have let their bodies to erode by exposing to DC competition at difficult times of the year.

tj600, 2/1/13 12:40 PM

Thanks! You are correct. The wiki page I used hadn't been updated since Apr 2012 and Fed had two DC wins against Netherlands last fall beating Haase and De Bakker both in straight sets.

This brings him to an 82.1% moving him up one spot ahead of Vilas.

While Sampras' W-L DC record is 17-8, his wins were quality wins leading the Americans to DC Championships in 1992 and 1995. He was also 4-1 in doubles.

In 1995, the US defeated Russia 3-2 and Sampras contributed to all three wins in singles and doubles!

#PistolPete

BTW, those DC wins in Russia were all on clay!

USA d. RUS 3-2 in RUS 01 Dec - 03 Dec 1995
Olympic Stadium, Moscow, Russia Clay (I)
R1 W CHESNOKOV, Andrei 3-6 6-4 6-3 6-7(5) 6-4
R3 W KAFELNIKOV, Yevgeny/ OLHOVSKIY, Andrei, Partnering MARTIN, Todd 7-5 6-4 6-3
R4 W KAFELNIKOV, Yevgeny 6-2 6-4 7-6(4)

Conspirator , 2/1/13 2:10 PM While Sampras' W-L DC record is 17-8, his wins were quality wins leading the Americans to DC Championships in 1992 and 1995. He was also 4-1 in doubles.



about bringing up Rogers Davis Cup record:


58 matches.
43 wins.
39 singles matches.


19 doubles matches despite, not being a doubles player.


Participation in 73% of all ties since his 1st in ?99.


Participation in 3 ties (out of 6 possible) outside of Europe since his first tie, which is WAY more than any other top player (Nadal = 0/5, Djokovic = 1/7, Murray = 1/5).


Participation indiscriminate of surface; indoor, outdoor, carpet, hard, grass, clay. Other top players are not so unfussy.


great.

selfish Two-year ranking. for increase clay.

Nadal or Djokovic or Murray play a game in doubles how many times. and, most surface in which Nadal has participated was clay.


Moreover, even if he did not participate, most Spain was coming to the final by other players. Spain has many top players.

In the case of Roger, it is 2 times the game of singles, And the game of doubles.

He have to hold a five-set game continuously for three days.


And Roger had not done early lost in almost all tournaments. wowrinka has much early lost in the usual tournament.

There are too many burdens to Roger.

I do not regard Roger as positive to the Davis Cup. ?However, I write that moron which criticizes it.

Federer only play DC to selfish Olympic qualify then loose. Blame Stan. Poor Stan.

RogerLoverF say moron then agree. Him moron then also.

Sampras win 1995 DC all himself two single AND double. True champ not like fake arrogant smug pretender. Lol

Smug burp moronnba RogerLoverF

#Tinfoil

Fed has preserved his body to build his legacy. Skipping DC is part of this strategy. Rest of the strategy is cupcake draws and blatantly fixed schedules so that he faces easy 4 rounds, opponent of choice in quarters (usually Roddick before he fell out of top 8), an exhausted opponent in semis coming through a tough quarter and/or unkind schedule.

It's obvious that tennisnba is using the fake broken grammar to throw people off. We have seen trolls use this technique in the past to try to hide their identity. Then we see that this person is quite capable of stringing together a grammatically correct, complete sentence. Of course, the points that are made are the usual idol hero worship variety and pathetic attempts to rationalize Fed's behavior and his lack of participation in DC.

lol. And Sampras did what at the Olympic? Sampras has what medal?


It was lucky. the top player had gathered also with the United States at that time
Therefore, it was finished only as little game.


Roger brought the gold medal and the silver medal home for the country.


Roger was participating in many games. Switzerland is performed also in the final or SF.

However, efforts became useless.

Nadal and a small number of players had an idea which boycotts AO. For ego two-year ranking. Or, for the dissatisfaction to money.


Roger, the players' association chairman, and players' association members continued work. In order to avoid a boycott. I respect their self-sacrifice and efforts.


Nadal's requests which I remember are these.
Two-year ranking. The increase in clay. Reduction of a hard court. Dissatisfaction to a schedule. However, the inside of tour and off-season plan the game of EX, etc.


I think that Nadal should boycotted also RG. If Nadal thinks that these Nadal's requests are for other players truly.

it does never happen. Because, Nadal is always moving for the selfish and ego of himself.


like a Holdserve arrogant fanatic fan never accept it. It is a reason I dislike nadal and fanatic fan of nadal. arrogant hypocrite. lol

most surface in which Nadal has participated was clay.

Moreover, even if he did not participate, most Spain was coming to the final by other players.

and, Nadal has always cupcake draws

Roger is second at Olympic Lawn Tennis. Not bad him.

#PlatinumNotSilver
#ItsKILLINGme
#YouF@$kingStopped
#WeWereJust CheckingEachOtherOneTime
#ShutUp
#Humble

Federer now use mouthpiece Luethi for Olympic wild card so not have play Davis Cup to qualify...

However, one of the game's greats could expect to get a wild-card Olympics entry even without committing to the Davis Cup.
"It's tough to believe that if he would not play Davis Cup, he would not have a chance to play'' in Rio, Luethi said.


Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/tennis/news/20130129/roger-federer-da vis-cup.ap/#ixzz2JgNrl7Qp Olympic wild card so not need play Davis Cup to qualify...

sad. selfish arrogant

lol. about bringing up Rogers Davis Cup record:

58 matches.
43 wins.
39 singles matches.

19 doubles matches despite, not being a doubles player.

Participation in 73% of all ties since his 1st in ?99.

Participation in 3 ties (out of 6 possible) outside of Europe since his first tie, which is WAY more than any other top player (Nadal = 0/5, Djokovic = 1/7, Murray = 1/5).

Participation indiscriminate of surface; indoor, outdoor, carpet, hard, grass, clay. Other top players are not so unfus

Roger brought the gold medal and the silver medal home for the country.

Sampras did what at the Olympic. Sampras has what medal.
sad. selfish arrogant.

Lol now you're giving Federer grief because he hasn't won enough davis cup matches?

Lol show you know nothing of the tennis history RogerLoverF.

Saying why Sampras no win Olympic 2nd place same as saying why Borg no win Australian Open!

Please to thinking before speak next of time.

This my free lesson for you.

ts38 so happy you find funny. Is my intention always to entertain.

#YoureBothWelcome
#Humble

It is funny. Thanks for that. You're still dodging my question.

It's evident that Nadal brings out the idiot in tennisnba. One thought of Rafa sends her heart a fluttering and her English language goes to pot. She can't think straight, so she makes things up because she is all ga ga with Rafa in her head!

Saying why Sampras no win Olympic 2nd place same as saying why Borg no win Australian Open!

lol. Everyone knows. ?And the hard court GS does not exist in the Rod Laber era?


Lendl does not have a title of Wimbledon?


You have always insulted Roger Federer. Not only you

Roger has not won the victory in a Davis cop.
Sampras was not able to win at the Olympic. also he has canceled an appearance in the Olympic. He was not so positive to the Olympic.

Everyone knows. as@hole

nadline

It is always a gathering of Nadal's fanatic fan here. Moreover, one person who is writing the blog is also Nadal's fanatic fan?

Can't it be satisfied with you yet? ?a biased forum here, it can have it in your mind. at least. lol

^^^Is that why Rafa brings out the idiot in you?

I've seen your identical posts on other forums - copy and paste jobs - so it's not only on TT that you lose your head over Rafa.

tennisnba, 2/2/13 10:49 AM

That's right. Sampras wasn't "so positive" on Olympics nor were most top players at the time just like Borg and his peers with AO just like Fed with Davis Cup.

ts38, Roger doesn't read this site and you've obviously missed my point entirely.Seems it is only you and RogerLoverF who have any grief over this. Please settle down the both of you.

However, players including Roger put big importance on the Olympics. Both Rafa and Muzz have shown Olympic excellence with Gold medals. And Roger has the only platinum medal in Olympic history which shows his Goatness.

#Humble

So what is your point then?

^^^^
Conspirator, 2/2/13 1:42 PM

Please read more carefully.

Let me repeat, so what's your point then?

Seriously? How about you take an educated (I'm assuming) guess first and if it is sincere and polite then I will spell it out niiiice and sloooowly for you using little words.

I already took an educated guess. When you list a bunch of tennis greats DC records and show Federer as last among the ones you listed, then write things like "interesting" "stanfordsfault" and "notapriority" what is it supposed to mean if not giving him grief?

Full marks for politeness and sincerity. However giving someone grief is not a point.

I didn't put Fed last on that list BTW... Fed did. I don't have such powers.

My point was just that the data indicates that Fed probably does not place the same importance on DC relative to slams and masters as much as other greats do. It is not a criticism. He has his own reasons and priorities and is entitled to them. They have made him the best player of all time.

#Humble

Only in the eyes of Fed fans is Fed the best player of all time. Which implies Conspirator is a closet Fed fan and is not to be trusted by Rafa fans. Beware the fake Rafa fan! Beware the Jub Jub Bird and shun the Frumious Bandersnatch!

Holdserve needs immediate medical attention. We should all pray to GOD for his well being and contribute in every possible way to seek his well being. Lets all join together.

I <3 U 2, holdserve!!!!!!!!!

#TrustNo1
#TheTruthIsOutThere
#Tinfoil

The infamous twit ( conspirator to wit)!

The Swiss are out of the DC. Berdy beat Wawa in 4.

By the pen name, you have to take Conspirator with a pinch of salt. He/she puts Federer down on one hand then calls him the GOAT on the other. Maybe insincerity is the word I'm looking for. No self respecting true Rafa fan will ever call Federer the GOAT. Let's just accept that some people are quite comfortable sitting on the fence.

Yes, yes, even Rafa calls Federer the best of all time, but Rafa is not one to argue; he knows who is boss.

I guess all the poor Ferru, Berdy, Delpo, Tsonga, et. al. fans are resigned to sitting on the fence too based on that limited and singular way of thinking.

#HowSad
#Goat
#VAMOSRAFA

^^^So you are saying that everyone except Rafa fans (not including you) think Federer is the GOAT?

No. Try harder next time.

At least you don't think that only Rafa fans think Federer is not the GOAT.

vamos.

The Twit (noun) means an idiot.

#Delusional

Twit admits he is delusional? No wonder he thinks Fed is the GOAT. . .

Come over to the dark side, Conspirator. We have cookies.

An invitation for Conspirator from Lord Voldemort's side (Fed's side).
Question: Is it better to be a Jub Jub bird or a Bandersnatch or a Death Eater?
Ah Twit, you have three choices.

Federer will always be remembered for his reluctance to play Davis cup. That can not be debated. The GOAT question, however, can be debated.

^^^ just like his greatness and legacy of being one of the all time greats cant be debated.

" just like his greatness and legacy of being one of the all time greats cant be debated..."

No it can't be. But `one of` is the important element included in your statement that is often nowhere to be found in his other acolyte's posts....

oopps!
did I say `often` ;)

Now WAIT just a second. I can't be bought off so easily xrf.

What kind of cookies are we talking here.

There is the very root of just about all the crazy distortions in perceptions of Roggie, as well as of the out of proportion hatred for Rafa: in those words: 'one of'.

Sane tennisfans (no matter whether fans of Roggie primarily or others) and the more lucid journalists have been saying this all along: 'one of'. Unquestionably one of the greatest of all time.

But those (objective) words 'one of' have been hard to swallow for those journalists who drank the kool-aid, or simply decided to spice up their stories - objectivity be damned - and for those (minority?) Roggie fans whose self-esteem seems to be too tightly dependent on how they and others perceive Fed's greatness. Nothing less than 'the greatest of all time' would do or, so it seems, their articles wouldn't be read as much, or their self esteem would take too big a hit. Why else, for one, the hatred of Rafa and distortions of facts ever since he started to make it hard for Roggie to get closer to 14 slams and the career slam? Or, worse, to be unquestionably 'the greatest'? There is no doubt in my mind that there lies the real source of all this Rafa bashing that has been going since about 2005.

Well duh chloro, but nicely summarized all the same!
The hatred of Rafa and the constant hounding of his fans is driven by the one question they will never even consider let alone accept, but is always there playing in the back of their minds ready to leap into action.
Namely;

How can Roger be the Goat when he is so completely dominated by another tennis player?

The answer is, ofcourse, that he can't be and they will never forgive him or his followers for spoiling their dream and tarnishing the purity of the reflected glory that they have chosen to bath in so religiously all this time.
Too bad I say!
As their suffering is caused by their own narcissism & idolatory & therefore totally deserved ;)

Why, Basler Leckerli of course, Conspirator.

duh indeed... but that is the point isn't it?

All of this *ought* to be obvious... but reasons of needed delusions it isn't.

vamos >> allez.

vamos.

^^ but *for* reasons

the only way to reach ecstasy is to vamos.

vamos.

vamos!

VAMOAT

^^^^

Ooops, I.... I meant to say....

VAMOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

chlorostoma, 2/4/13 3:48 PM,

Another great post from you! I think you got to the heart of the issue. There are some Fed fans whose identity is tied too tightly to Fed and his greatness. If he falters, then there goes their self-esteem. It's kind of a scary phenomenon. Out of this strange phenomenon flows the intense hatred of Rafa. He has robbed these rabid fans of their illusion of Fed as the GOAT. For how can he truly be the GOAT if he has been so dominated by his biggest rival? There lies the rub! That's why they argue so intensely about Rafa's h2h superiority over Fed. They try to endlessly debunk or minimize its importance. Because they know full well that this taints any claim of Fed as GOAT.

For myself, the whole GOAT argument has always been a fallacy. There can never be a GOAT. As Rod Laver said, a player can only be the greatest in his era. So I have never bought into any GOAT argument. But for Fed fans, their self-worth hinges on him being the greatest of all time.

I think it's also a selfish argument. How can anyone presume to put Fed above Rod Laver? How can anyone dismiss players like Sampras, Borg, Rosewall or Emerson? Fed can be one of the greatest, but never the greatest. For there is no way to demean the singular contributions of past great players.

nny,
thank you

the majority of fed fans out there around the world do not have their self esteem or anything like that wrapped around how Fed does and how he is perceived. Just a minority are those 'some fed fans' whose self image is wrapped up with the fed and rafa. Of course they tend to be the majority of posters among fed fans posting on any tennis sites.

I've never heard any sound argument for claiming the goat question makes sense. The sensible ends at 'one of the greatest', and that counts for all the greats.

And finally, to date the most amazing careers in tennis belongs to two or three of the women greats who outshine the greatest of the men in a majority of dimensions you could measure achievements by. As amazing as the Williams sisters are they are not in quite in the same league. But can you call the Williams among the best of their generation, probably the best? Yes, of course.

Has roger been tremendously inspiring and a joy to hundreds of thousands? Millions? Yes. Has he helped raise and define male tennis in his generation? Yes. Why on earth is that not already more than enough?

chloro,

You pose the ultimate question in the last sentence of your last post. I don't know if there is an answer. You preceded that question by stating what Fed has been for so many fans and for the sport. One would think that would be more than enough. He has won the most slams, has the record for most consecutive semifinal appearances in slams, a record that Rafa mentioned was most impressive to him and one that may well never be broken. Fed has accomplished so much and been fortunate to be free from serious injury throughout his career. He is still playing competitive tennis at the age of 31. He seems happy in both his professional and personal life. Why can't his fans just rejoice in that and not spend so much wasted energy hating Rafa and his fans?

We know that Fed respects Rafa. He knows what it takes to best him as much as Rafa has throughout their rivalry. He has not enmity for Rafa. We also know that Rafa has always admired and respected Fed.

As you said, most Fed fans are not so intently wrapped up in him that their very self-esteem depends on whether he wins or loses. Unfortunately, as you said the minority are the ones who we encounter posting on tennis sites.

If any Fed fan wants to believe that he is the GOAT, then that it their prerogative. However, they should not expect others to agree with them.