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  • Federer off for recuperation after injury-plagued exit

    7/1/10 3:30 PM | Johan Lindahl
    Federer off for recuperation after injury-plagued exit Roger Federer is officially off on holiday a week earlier than usual after his worst loss at Wimbledon since 2002.

    The four-set quarter-final shutdown to Tomas Berdych stunned the Swiss, who uncharacteristically revealed that he had been suffering from injuries over recent weeks.

    With his fitness level normally not an issue, the world No. 2 admitted that he has been fighting back pain and a right leg problems. "I couldn't play the way I wanted to play. I'm struggling with a little bit of a back and a leg issue. That just doesn't allow me to play the way I would like to.

    "Under the circumstances I think I played a decent match. But I've been feeling bad for the last two, three matches now. It's just not good and healthy to play under these kind of conditions. If there's anything good about this it's I'm gonna get some rest, that's for sure."

    Federer said he first felt the leg in Halle, Germany, where he lost the final to Lleyton Hewitt. "It came back after the first round match (here), went away again and just kept creeping back sometimes during the matches.

    "The back's been feeling stiff the last five, six days really badly, also in the finals of Halle. It's normal that the back tends to get stiff, you know, in the grass court season because you have to go for many more lower shots. I've had that for many years.

    "It's not just not nice when it doesn't go away and you can't play freely. That's what I was missing."


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I am sure he will work on these:
1. Get a coach - will help in tactical acumen and strategizing. He needs someone experienced who would do the job, but not tinker too much with is game ..
2. Work on fitness and back strengthening - Fed already has a history of back problems from after last years US Open
3. Serve needs to be more consistent - a hot and cold forehand is fine, but both serve and forehand ... too much risk against good players.
4. Take time off, fitness is the key here .. he has the ambition all he needs is peak fitness

justtennis , 7/1/10 4:30 PM


Hope he can recuperate his mindset and attitude.

rafanna , 7/1/10 5:10 PM


ROGER FEDERER CONFIRMS AGAIN THAT SEVERIN LUTHI IS HIS COACH
By: freakyfrites May 26 2010 -


At the very top of my long list of tennis pet peeves is the perpetuation of the myth that Roger Federer doesn?t have a coach. Yes, going it alone was a point of pride during a particularly fruitful time of Roger?s career, and it?s always fun to hear Brad Gilbert joke that Mirka ?out-coached him? during that rain-delayed Wimbledon final in 2004. I admit to having overlooked Luthi?s role in the past, particularly during the dark, post Australian Open melt-down period of 2009, when I pleaded with Roger to hire a ?real? coach. (Yes, that was a one-sided conversation.) But the truth is that Severin Luthi has been sitting in Federer?s box and lurking around his practice sessions for years ? at least since 2008 ? and is always named by the Man, himself, as his coach.

Yet for whatever reason, some people refuse to believe it:

Read more: http://www.gototennisblog.com/2010/05/26/roger-federer-confirms-again- that-severin-luthi-is-his-coach/#ixzz0sMUC7Ccj


This was posted on another thread earlier, but I think it's appropriate here.

nadline , 7/1/10 6:56 PM


Yes, we do want Roger to take care of himself first and foremost. He seems too slender and with little muscle mass this year. Perhaps the lung infection was more costly than supposed. Although I love tennis, it won't be the same without Roger still involved in the green grass tournment this year. I won't watch much. Best to you Roger!

Vitality , 7/1/10 8:37 PM


did any body read Byrdich pressor: wow when you just think the guy should be happy and yet graceful toward his oponents.he called the injury "an excuse",how could he,after all what this Roger has done and achieved for somebody who has zero GS that is out of the line!
Media will jump on him and people will write him off they done that when he lost the finals to Nadal in 2008, they always did and when he won the AO he was suddenly the king of the world,here the lost hurts the most the Wimbledon the classy grounds the tradition and history that what is Federer all about and suddenly he is a stranger in his home for the first time in six years i am not going to stay home on Sunday for the match
I know 29 is not young but TMF is not a human nickname
get well champ,

tennislover , 7/1/10 9:06 PM


Even if you dont stay home on Sunday to watch the match, Federer, or whether you watch the match or not, it would not make a difference to the outcome of the match. You are not in the final and thats that!!!! After winning so many Wimby trophies, cant someone else get the oppotunity to win one?!!.......come on!!!!!!!!!

Monalysa , 7/1/10 11:36 PM


Federer fan or not, Roger's been a very, very familiar face at these GS events, and when he's not in the semis/finals and the less familiar confronts us we're like: uh, OK, uh....

He's the King of Courts! He won the AO this year and could win more GS finals as well. That said, my favorite player, Rafa, is the next in succession, and as Rafa builds upon his own amazing and impressive career to remain Number 1 for years (like Roger did), he'll eventually become the familiar.

One thing I like about Roger and Rafa: there's a strong mutual respect. This is one oncoming succession that doesn't feel like a virtual takeover.

Dana99 , 7/2/10 12:27 AM


Maxi , u were not willing to believe me yesterday becoz i was a nadal fan ...well what do u have to say abt this http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Sports/Events-Tournaments/Wimbledon /Top-stories/Roger-makes-excuses-Berdych-ignores-them/articleshow/6116 989.cms

berdych is very disaappointed after listening to fed's 'excuses' and how many times has that happened?? please comment now. thanks.

and BY NO MEANS i am anti-federer, this is jsut an elaboration , yesterday logci and truth were being defied and this is just yo back my point. fed is a blessing to the tennis world, peerless in so many ways but surely i was upset with the way he handled this loss by taking all credit away from berdych when berdych deserved all plaudits.

vamosrafa , 7/2/10 12:39 AM


vamosrafa,

I will admit that that press conference of Federer's wasn't the classiest he has ever given, but that does not mean that he was lying about the injuries. You may have seen seen the pictures of the strapping on Federer's thigh... after the second round match, I think it was? So there was a little discomfort there. I don't know why he said that he was 'perfect' physically before this - perhaps not wanting to betray any weakness to the opponents, considering the fact that it doesn't seem to have been anything remotely serious, merely a distracting pain. But I believe him when he says there was some pain, because I noticed signs of it during his match and during his practice before.

I don't particularly like how it came up in the press conference; I think he could have at least played it down a little; mention it, but not make a big deal about it. And definitely give Berdych more credit. Allow Berdych to celebrate. Because the way he said it, mentioning his back and not lending Berdych as much praise as he could have came out sounding like excuses and bitterness. And maybe he was bitter. I mean, the six-time champion losing to a player who he's beaten 10 times, to someone he wins against most of the time... that's bound to make someone a little annoyed.

But, you know, it happens. Many players have done what Federer did, and many will do so again. He was deeply disappointed, and didn't bother to hide it. He could - and probably should - been a little more graceful, but that didn't happen. Oh well.

Here is a better interview (I think so anyway.) He gives Berdych his proper credit, and is overall, I think, a little more graceful and classy.

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/8776313.stm

Champion7 , 7/2/10 4:02 AM


vamosrafa, i think we should be fair here.. nadal never loses a match without claiming an injury (rightfully of course) and hardly ever credits his conqueror. I think that is the mentality required of any champion, the day rafa admit that somebody outplayed him, I think we can conclude that he has lost his self belief. he same applies for TMF (ya, I am a bit nostalgic after his loss, excuse me).

Berdych of course doesnt understand it, no player who is more used to losing than winning would never understand what rafa does and what fed did now is not making excuses but just maintaining the firm self belief that brought them so many accolades.

And vamosrafa, i find it hard to believe people are gloating on the federer defeat.. even though I'm over the moon at rafa's second Wimbledon win (upcoming) I am strangely saddened by this exit of a player whom I never warmed to... But I am realizing now that even though I never consciously liked fed, i am going to miss hi like hell if he is over and done.

rafanadalfanforever , 7/2/10 4:06 AM


tennislover,
Go watch Berdych's interview on video. A few reporters asked him the question a few times, if he thought RF baming his injury was an excuse. Berdych said it could have been so or it could have been an excuse, everyone has injuries, etc.... So don't hang the guy, he was asked the question and given the answer. And ervyone knows RRFA ALWAYS gives excuses and NEVER credits the opponent who beats him so you'r barking up the wrong tree pal!

For some RF fans, it's ok for RF to be honoest but NOT ok for other players to be honest. WOW, biased, no???

Berdych doesn't understand what it's like for a top player to lose? Well RF doesn't understand what it's like to be on the other side of an excuse-filled reaction after you've won a big match with all your heart and effort! Works both ways!!!

jean , 7/2/10 5:25 AM


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starlyn81 , 7/2/10 7:06 AM


Again.... very happy for you starlyn81 and .... again... pretty sure your relationship has anything to do with RF's injuries.

On topic, perhaps this, and I'm only guessing, has something to do with Roger's recent lack of form, or maybe he's just getting old :)

cal23 , 7/2/10 7:40 AM


*has nothing to do with RF's injuries* sorry...

cal23 , 7/2/10 7:43 AM


I did read the whole presser and yet was surprised: this guy is like when you do the driving test 10 times then suddenly after passing you gloat that you are the best driver!
it took him 10 times to win, Federer is not the best loser never was and I hope never will be if you watched his BBC interview he did mention that Byrdich played well and but he was injured regardless as nothing did happen on the court that would distract this Byrdich thing winning then no harm done what Federer thinks is Fedrerer business thank god some body here thinks that Rafa is not a good loser as well we all remember his remarks after the loss in FO last year when Soderling was a god there. Still I do think Federer could have come out and praise the opponent more but guess what that what Begdatatis does what Gonzales does but not what Federer does and defiantly not what Rafa does even that VAMOSRAFA thinks totally other wise that Rafa is a gracious loser we all could come back to the post match interviews and read them and we all can come back to the one famous sentence ? he played well but I played short? it is a bad memory but I thinks it rings a bell for all dear Rafa fans.

Lets go back to USO 09 when Rafa had blisters on his legs then stomach and insisted he was fine up to the loss to Cilic he was not feeling fine before a major you don?t came out and say am venerable come and get me it doesn?t happen this way life doesn?t happen this way sometimes you go to the office with blind headache because you cant afford missing that are the rules of life.

Once Byrdich told the crowd to shut up in a match against Rafa in Madrid and Rafa told him at the net that was unnecessary remember the gesture so nice behaviors towards better players is not something he is known for so whatever.

Am missing the Sunday final because it is honestly harsh grass and not Federer is ugly scene as am sure you felt the same with that French Sunday of 09 of red clay and no Rafa but that Sunday was a history line of tennis and books history has one name in common it is Roger Federer .

tennislover , 7/2/10 7:44 AM


ok the loss in 09 was against Del Potro
the one against Cilic happened later in the Asian swing

tennislover , 7/2/10 8:10 AM


"""I did read the whole presser and yet was surprised: this guy is like when you do the driving test 10 times then suddenly after passing you gloat that you are the best driver!"""

Not suprised at all, as you can not even accept it to yourself that 14-7 H2H is very dominant and it is mean nothing to you because you are a blind fanatic fedfart.

Raindrops , 7/2/10 8:18 AM


is crying for attention here
i was answering the people with brain here and you are not under that category
what is your problem, get a life
at least that post is smell free.......................... you are pathetic not to mention gross

tennislover , 7/2/10 8:22 AM


i missed the last line you still ....................................smelly
old habbits die hard i believe
take it easy seriously: you have to lay down take a deep breath it is just a sport have a life for God sake

tennislover , 7/2/10 8:25 AM


My smelly feet still thump at your big mouth and you have no other choice but to lick it clean until you get sore with the pungent odor and taste that's what you worth being arrogant. You better go back to your foxhole, LICK YOUR WOUNDS and SHUT UP. Federer is lost to Soderling at FO and now to Berdych at Wimbledon as I predicted, YOU KNOW hehe.

Raindrops , 7/2/10 8:40 AM


10 tries???

WRONG !!!

It is the same Berdych who defeated Federer in Miami this year. This is the 2nd win of Bedrych over Federer in a row. So your Driver's license is expired check it out dimwit.

Raindrops , 7/2/10 9:15 AM


Federer said after Madrid lost that the clay season would be decided in Roland Garros... after lost in RG he said can't wait for wimbledon... after lost in wimbledon he said can't wait next year to be Paris and wimbledon and the worse is he feels pity that Delpotro could not play cause he could be run as no 1 player.... in other world he would say that Nadal will not no 1 if delpotro is around??? and he is what people call The best player ever.... disgusting....

tettylds , 7/2/10 9:22 AM


lolz tettylds,

Yeah I see your point, it is totally irrelevant to bring other players like delpo in a conversation of healthy and fit players. I am laughing with his usual antics of "CAN'T WAIT", just like his fanatic followers who are talking in full arrogance again that Roger WILL SURELY win the USOpen this year. hehe

As Rafa always says: WE GONNA SEE NO?

Raindrops , 7/2/10 9:44 AM


Yes Raindrops, our Rafa is so humble and down to earth as a No. 1 player. I think Roger is still the same... nothing wrong with the way he plays... only these other players manage to raise up their game and now everybody can serve, rallies, volleys and whatsoever so fantastic... you have to mentally and phisically strong to win... and we know who is the strongest, quickest, smartest... hopefully he remains healthy... VAMOS RAFA!!!!

tettylds , 7/2/10 10:04 AM


@champion7 and rafanadalfanforever, thaks for ur comments. let me make myself clearer, i AM NOT implying that fed is faking these injuries, no they may well be genuine and might have created discomfort..i am nt into this. what my point is that was it the right time to say all these things?? he does taht so often now, despite winning 16 slams and so much i dont know why the great man does that, right after losing if you explain your injuries and health issues with LIMITED compliments for ur opponent it seems u are making excuses! , he could have said i could not produce my best due to some reasons but berdych was too good on the day and he deserved it more... i mean 80% of hsi interview was based on his health issue and that how he would have played his game and won had those injuries not been there. so that is simply taking credit away, in another thread i giave 5-6 past examples where the same has happened.

now talking abt that Us open 09 loss tennislover talked abt, well rafa had a torn abdominal musce (2mm thick) and he was in acute pain so cudnt serve more than 180kmh.he got KILLEd by delpo and then came the presser, everyone knew ab tthe heavy strappings on nadal's stomach BUT STILL nadla didnt use them as an excuse RIGHT after the match to take credit away from opponents (which rafa hates to do and he says that so many times), he had so much praise for delpo and no such things like ' if i were healthy i would have handled....' , BUT after quite some time he did mention the torn muscle nd how it affected his play but it was a much better time to mention it rather than doing it RIGHT AFTER THE MATCH. another example, nadal recently told that he had knee issues i miami 09 semi but he didnt say anything abt it at that time becoz it would have served as an excuse !, he mentioned it just now so that roddick was able to get maximum credit a that time.even abt nadal's knee, take 09 Rg loss, knees were so bad that he missed tenis for mnths after that including wimbledon, but righ tafter RG loss read the presser!!!! NADAl DIDNOT MENTION THE KNEES, the knees were talked abt later on and tht reason is same, he just avoids doing it righ tafter the match beczo it takes credit away from ur conquereors ! u may bash ur own game but mentioning injuries so much unless they are quite obv lead to one thing : TAKING CREDIT AWAY !

i hope i made my pnt clearer, i wasnt happy when a lot of credit was taken away from berdych.

vamosrafa , 7/2/10 11:17 AM


Vamosrafa:
am sure if Byrdich has your email he wouldve sent you an email thanking you for all the troubles you have been having in proving your point !
it is really sad that you still think that Roger is pretender you make it sound like he is always with an injury he also had losses in many masters and many of them were not justified by injuries but i know you wouldnt be convienced you just built your point here and forget that RG loss was not far away and he didnt justify it by injury
i believe people here are fanatic blind to one person you might be a Rafa fan a Murray fan but that wouldnt take away the respect to others sucess and long career

you take the Rafa saying and base it around to his favours and take Roger's and base it against him in comparsions you shouldnt be a factor or the equation wont be balanced,the two parts will have different vaules and the comparsion will fail and that what you just have been doing for couple of days.
Federer is player you dont like ,abviously, but at least the great epic they had in 08 wont happen again this year ,i hope Byrdich can be good enough for the show if he makes it in the final as you seem to be so sorry for him.
Am not convinced by your point because i said enough earlier but still you are not convinced so i respect your oponion but i dont agree with you,you seem like a decent tennis fan so no harm done
peace and enjoy today's matches

tennislover , 7/2/10 1:05 PM


to specific lunatic here:
the head to head was 8-0 before the two wins now it is 8-2
it took him 8 times not 10 that is much better! still after 3 trials in some countries they do mental assesment before 4 th time trial in driving liscence test
here some info for someone:
wait i smell something...................... yeah i meant that student, the smelly one!
Am sure they ask you to have a bath before the driving liscence test or god help the guy who was in same car with you! if he still alive to talk about it! may he rest in peace

tennislover , 7/2/10 1:18 PM


Federer blamed his loss on physical problems, when only two days before he said he was doing well after crushing Melzer ("honestly now I have no more problems"). Federer simply got outplayed by a big, hard-hitting player (like the USO final in 09) and could not handle it, making excuses in an attempt to discredit his opponent's win. Berdych didn't buy it and neither did many sports writers. There is no injury. There is just a sore loser called Roger Federer.

Simon Reed, commenting on BBC, actually said right after the match that Federer will be gracious in defeat and say that the better man won. Boy, was he wrong!

samdaman , 7/2/10 1:55 PM


"""it took him 8 times not 10 that is much better! """

It feels better and better when you successfully slapping again and again the reality into the faces of sore loser lunatic fedfarts. 10 eh? Foot in your mouth again bwahahaha. I will not stop targetting you blind fools until you all bathing with your own blood. No matter how to try to ease up your disperation, Federer LOST in Wimbledon of which you all fedfarts claimed that it is his house haha. Humiliation to all of you fedfarts. You were all wrong, you forgot that he was just a CARETAKER but you claimed that it was your house nyehahaha.

All you can do is to take comfort with the pressers of Federer, make you fool again that he lost because of injury...for christsakes, HE WAS LOSING A LOT SINCE INDIAN WELLS can you hear that? .... DREAM ON!

Raindrops , 7/2/10 1:56 PM


Think about this, if Bedych is just a SO-SO player then your excuse is acceptable but Berdych is a quality player and being a sound tennis fan, (unlike you lunatic) I made it say that Berdych is mature enough to win matches at the bigger stage and he is the dark horse of this year Wimbledon based on his previous performances. So far, I am right and you were wrong and with the amount of arrogance you showed, you deserve smelly feet in your mouth.

Raindrops , 7/2/10 2:16 PM


Vamosrafa,

Thank you for clarifying. I get what you're saying, and I agree with you: I said much the same thing in my previous post. But you cannot always be gracious in defeat. Roger was obviously extremely ticked off with the result of the match, and as such didn't give as much credit as he should have to his opponent. That's unfortunate. The point remains that, so recently after you lost the match, your emotions will be extremely volotile and raw; Roger did a poor job of concealing how he felt, so soon after the match. Perhaps if he had had a little more time to calm, he would have given more credit to his opponent. As it was, he didn't, and that is unfortunate. Still, the fact remains, he is not the first to do that and nor will he be the last.

I don't know how I would have reacted if I were Federer: it is entirely possible that I would have done the same thing. These players go through immense emotional and physical stress, and they're bound to react badly once in a while. Obviously, I would prefer it if Roger had not reacted as he did, but he cannot always supress his emotions. They will inevitably shine through once in a while. I'm not going to praise his behavior, but I AM going to stand by him. I have been a Fed fan for a long time, and a grumpy presser isn't going to change that.

Roger's in a slump at the moment, no doubt about it. But I strongly believe he will come back to win a few more Grand Slams. He said that he will continue to play until the 2012 olympics minimum, and if he stays true to his word, I'll be happy. The longer he continues to play, the better. And if he makes a few more records, well, that'll be nice too. :)

Champion7 , 7/2/10 4:51 PM


Whatever.....

easy to be gracious whe you're winning, a complete prick when he's losing. That's Roger in a nutshell.

Everyone fell in love with Fed, his skill, his majestic movement on the court, the absolute domination of every player on the list for years....it was sooooo easy for Fed to have this polished, sophisticated, trained persona in the media's spotlight.....So easy when you're the conqueror!

Then came Rafael Nadal (of most), then Djoko, then Delpo and many others....ppl started reading parts of his game and sometimes even defeating him....

and out came this little snob of junior times....

Not once, not once, have I heard Rog turn around and say "better man, better player won today"..."i got outplayed"....."he played great, cudos to him"....there is always a reason and an explanation....

therefore he may be a GOAT based on his tennis achievements, but in personality stakes of what a true sportsman should be like, he comes up short on so many occasions I;ve lost count.....I'm dissapointed....cause i truly appreciate the talent, the greatness in techical aspects of his game......I so wished he could be as great in defeat as he is when hi wins!

bianca , 7/2/10 7:22 PM


well its also took 3 years for federer to call rafa as clearly the best, even on clay he used to be short of praise , but now that has completeky changed with roger giving massive respect to rafa .

@champ, thnks for ur post. yup , u cant be gracious with ur defeats everytime , they are humans, but i tthink when a player of tomas' potential wins such a big match u should praise him more. he was also harsh towards muzza in 08, these yungsters deserve a lot more praise. and fed has won so much ! more than anybody has ever done so whynt juse enjoy and compliment the young talents who beat you. i even believe fed was hurting a bit, he was may b in some discomfort but even if he wanted to mention the injury then better such lines shud be added " but look i also believe he was better today , deserved it more.." so on ...

fed is likely to respond like a true champion he is, Us open promises a lot.

vamosrafa , 7/2/10 8:56 PM


good to see civilised conversation going on here...VAMOSRAFA ur my fav poster here...:D

vrael , 7/2/10 9:35 PM


lol..thnx mate and same goes foryou,really like your posts,u must be a great person :)

vamosrafa , 7/2/10 9:50 PM


i know there are roger fans who love their guy too much and they dont like it when something is said against fed even if that is true...still i admire their passion ..but we shud admit the truth becoz we are tennis fans first and then roger/rafa fans.

now fed is a classy guy and ppl make him a role model to take examples but now i would suggest the great RF take some examples from andy murray ! murray taugh us how to give a presser when u endure a hard loss.

i salute this guy, roger has 16 slams , 6 wimby titles and andy has ZERo slams and no wimb final even , both lose a match and murray loses it in front of his nation paying GREAT tennsi putting in MAXIMUN POSSIBLE effort, what a brave effort but he fell short in all three sets. so muzza's loss was MUCH tougher to endure obv and just look at his presser !!!

he said his game was working very well , only the return part lacked something and he hailed nadal as ' one of the greatest player ever' ....


and this relatively stupid qstion wa answered WITH CLASS...



jouranlist at his best to draw a somewhat bitter reply from muzza:

Q. Is it annoying to have to wait so long to receive serve?

ANDY MURRAY: No, I don't care. He can take as long as he wants on any point. I love watching the guy play. No, I don't care. He can take as long as he wants.

CLASS from the scot ! i soo want this guy to win a slam but the only problem is that i never want nadal to lose but i hope justice is done soon and this guy wins a slam , he is honest, hardworking , very talented and humilty is all over him ! really sorry u lost andy.

now i have heard nole was gracious too, i gna read his presser now.

vamosrafa , 7/2/10 10:17 PM


TY VR......i agree i love the trio....love rafael,nole and andy.....would love them to win some slams....but yeah there lies our dilemma....how can rafans want rafa to lose...and rafa will have to lose for them to win....nonetheless whenever rafa loses at these biggies...ill want andy murray and novak djokovic to win them...they sooo deserve it

vrael , 7/2/10 10:28 PM


Althought I am a STAUNCH Rafa fan but he DOES take forever to serve at times! They need to give him more code violations bcos i think it tends to put players off at times, esp when you wait so long for the serve and its a fault!!!!......irritating even for me when I watch! In all fairness, Rafa really needs to polish up on that aspect of his game and I hope he works on this in the finals on Sunday!

VAMOS!!!!!!

Monalysa , 7/2/10 10:30 PM


monalysa...if u look at the rafa of 08....07...he took even more time

he is much better now....and hopefully he will continue to improve in all departments....as rafa says...nobody is perfect,no??

vrael , 7/2/10 10:33 PM


Yeah you right, but i think sometimes it really gets awkward!

Monalysa , 7/2/10 10:36 PM


vamosrafa, i apologise for not replying to you, 2 days ago, very busy at work, exhausted to be honest. You are correct in that federer could have said more complimentary things about berdych, but it is wrong to say that he was not complimentary at all as this isn't true - i do feel you still jumped the gun too quickly. You were prepared to believe that roger wasn't being sarcastic in reference to other players, (in his interview)so that is something which is sad for me as a fan, but really, nothing you will say will make me have any less respect for him, especially when others who are on the tour behave worse in lots of ways. (on court).

I have had the afternoon off today (working from home), but managed to read a variety of comments, some of which I have put together here which by all means, comment on. I respect federer very much for being honest and I think a bigger picture needs to be looked at - have a nice evening.
Federer?s interview, well I have been reading a lot of the comments surrounding it and there are many criticisms.

Those remarks, ESPN analyst Pam Shriver said, were "grumpier and less gracious than usual. I think he's on edge. I think internally, maybe he's a little bit uncomfortable because of the big question hanging over him??

Said Shriver, "Certainly, this is going to put a lot of pressure on him to put together a run at the [U.S.] Open. The thing is, he's already won a Slam this year, in Australia. In men's tennis, that's a good result.

I think people need a very big reminder sometimes about how brilliant federer has been at setting tennis at such a high level with consistency in terms of his brand of tennis. He has a self-belief VF, that is strong and that comes through his interviews. Mcenroe said as much.

"He's just set such a ridiculous pace -- two a year, three a year -- that he's really a victim of his own success." This was said by Shriver.

Nadal said of Federer?s loss:
"When you play against these kind of players, like Soderling, like Berdych, they have a very good serve and very powerful shots from the baseline," Nadal observed. "It's very difficult sometimes to stop these players, no?
"Roger did amazing the last seven years here, so someday must happen this. Happen today."
Said Djokovic, "Federer is the best player that ever played this game. And still to be able to play this way after he has won so many Grand Slams is just great. I mean, you have to give him credit for everything he has done.
"So it's normal for him to lose. I mean, you guys, you know, you think he shouldn't lose at all? I mean, you have to congratulate to Berdych for playing that well."

As Federer said himself: ?I know I cannot go on for ever, I know there will be a time when there will be more losses. But even if I fall to No5 in the world rankings, I want to play on because I love the game.?

Tim Henman politely scoffs when asked if he feels Roger Federer is coming to the end of a career that has seen him become the greatest tennis player ever.

?Write him off at your peril,? said Henman, the man who reached six Grand Slam semi-finals as Britain?s shining light before stepping into retirement.

?Remember, I played some of the best tennis of my career when I was 29.?

Federer is only 28, but his defeat here by Tomas Berdych on Wednesday means that he has left the last two Grand Slam events at the quarter-final stage, after winning his record-breaking 16th Slam in Australia in January. Suddenly, his life is changing. A few of the things Henman said, ?There are family factors to consider and the pull of a different way of life may have started to eat away at his ambitions. He has spoken honestly about how he will have to come to terms with being away from home as his twin girls grow up and approach school age.
?It will be interesting to see how my wife Mirka and I deal with it,? he said. ?So far the longest I have been apart from them is three days. And they will be going to school soon and won?t be able to travel.?
Henman said: ?That?s something that he has to consider as he grows older. It happened to me. I started to find it horrible missing my family, and it will be a factor.?.
?But he is too good a player to just go away. He will come back and it would be very foolish to think his best days are behind him.
?Remember what was being said about Rafa Nadal this time last year. The general opinion was that he was finished. The rest is history.?

Federer has never spoken openly about his pain and his back. He has been extremely sparse in this area in terms of openly discussing it in the pressers. And if you look at his interview, you will see that the interviewers were asking federer the question BEFORE he answered. Yes, I agree, he could have remained silent about it, but I think he has earnt the right to be honest. Again, although he congratulated Tomas on his play, ?he played great, been more consistent this year?, he could also have continued with more applause for his opponent. But this isn?t federer?s way.
He couldn?t have accomplished what he had if he behaved differently. I think when you listen to the presser, comments are taken out of context (as they usually are with Federer). Again, the sarcasm he referred to when commenting on nadal, djokovic and soderling, was lost on those fans who wanted to believe Roger was being serious. Pulllleeazzzzze. Ridiculous.

Like I mentioned, he?s earned the right to be completely honest. I am glad he was honest about his injuries. We rarely, if at all, hear him ever complain or disclose this to his fans. It makes me wonder about the double standards too.
When Rafa lost to soderling at the FO in 2009, he made it abundantly clear that his knee was bad and that this is why he lost, NOT that soderling had beaten him. You can?t have one rule for Fed and a different one for other players. Overall, Federer has shown that he is a great competitor who speaks the truth. If a journalist asks him about his movement on court and he replies honestly, then the only problem is some people not wanting to hear the truth when it?s spoken. A little understanding is needed. There isn?t much of that when people want to bring the great man down. It sucks. but VR, there are many interviews out there where not only novak, rafa, murray, and others have commented on their own injuries, far more than roger ever has - even mcenroe and becker said that the journalists have large egos and almost want to bring roger down for the comments he made, taking them out of context, that it was astonishing. So, we are all imperfect human beings and I think for everything that federer has brought to the sport, you need to cut him some slack. This was a huge loss for him, he loves wimbledon, but he behaved appropriately on court, waited for his opponent and was asked direct questions at the presser, straight after the match. It must be hard, remember he was defending champion here. It's different to others who have just lost a match, Roger, I agree, could have said more about his opponent's game, because it was great. He started by saying Berdych "played great", yet it seems you want more from him all the time. Anyway, we differ in our opinion,(I haven't read all of your posts above, just found the thread and posted this, just wanted to make the point that I haven't been ignoring you).

I hope federer comes back stronger. We will have to wait and see, but when I read that Henman, at 29 (another month to go for fed!), had played some of the best tennis of his life and FROM the age of 29, Agassi won a further 5 slams, it makes me realise that provided Federer is prepared to continue to work hard at his game, then there is no reason why he can't come back stronger, though I know there are many people out there that want to him him fall. There's nothing I can do about that, nor anyone for that matter.


maxi , 7/2/10 10:42 PM


well maxi dear, thank you for replying. firstly, i need to correct u on this one when u start off by saying that I said that fed didnt compliment berdi at all, fed cant do that becoz he is great champion , my slight criticism (totally justified tho ) is that even when fed was disclosing hsi injury woes he should have added some praise right after that, like ' but look he played better today , he deserved it more ' ... being honest? well how can u say some 1 is honest all the time?? hwo can we judge? besides honesty is not always the best policy , especially in today's world .

plus, let me remove this misconception of yours. After nadal lost to soderling , he was super down in the presser, he just criticized his own game (for e.g said he played short and couldnt control pnts) and i am okay with this , criticizin ur game and then praising the other, every one does it..liek murray and nole did today....

now coming the point "When Rafa lost to soderling at the FO in 2009, he made it abundantly clear that his knee was bad and that this is why he lost, NOT that soderling had beaten him." sorry Maxi dear but u are highly mistaken here, nadal DIDNT MENTION A SINGLE THING ABT HIS KNEES in the presser!!! please read it again and u wil find out, later it was team nadal that revealed nadal's knee woes...then came the medical reports and then came rafa explaining how badly his knee hurt, so there is nothing wrong in being honest, but there is a time for everything and players shud understand, if you just put forward the list of injuries in the post amtch interview its just going to lead to one thing : TAKING CREDIT AWAY from ur opponent, that is what fed's remarks did right here , and i hope that misconception is gone abt RG 09 , nadal made no refernce to the trbled knees in the presser adn he explained it why , for e.g he now said that miami semi , this year, he was having some knee prob but didnt mention it becoz it would have sounded as a pure excuse so he remained quiet ,only now he told us ! so u see the timing of revealing some things has to be there.

another example ..muzza..08 qtr against rafa, he lost it BADLY and a jouranalists asked him whether it was the physicla exhaustion from the last match that let him down , he said 'no no ,no..." and explained it wasnt the reason , rafa was too good...BUT this year murray writes a column for BBC and explains hsi 2008 drubbing had two reasons : nadal was too good AND he lacked the energy to compete after that marathon with gasquet !! so again he chose not to bring tat fatigue as an excuse there but now its better time , no he did explain.


regarding fed striking back or writing him off, i mean on what basis ppl write him off? i dont see any logic...he is physically fit, such a gifted game nd when its on he is sooo hard to stop , he is a definite contender for US open and if he manages tp produce hsi best we may well see him lifting slam #17!

vamosrafa , 7/3/10 1:42 AM


vamosrafa, i looked for your reply this morning, here it is.

First thing federer said in his interview here (there are two), the video version and the printed version. The wimby interview is NOT the full interview. First thing Federer said is "well, you have to give credit to your opponent". First thing.

Secondly, I agree with you, I think he could have praised him more in his interview. No Buts. So I will use a "yet". Yet :), he went on to say he played "great", he has been consistent all year. so there is praise.

Thirdly, as I said, yesterday afternoon, read a lot, (needed to relax), many interviews from not just federer, but soderling, novak (who is the best in terms of crediting his opponent), rafa, murray, and we are talking reported comments, rafa called berdych a "bad person" at the madrid masters in his interview. What do you think about that? There is a link on google, you can find it, The Independent, I find that more shocking than giving your opponent "over praise", but I know you'll come back with something, yet rafa said it. So we could go on and on about this, ultimately we are dealing with brilliant tennis players, who are under a vast amount of pressure in terms of handling press conferences and the world media straight after a match, when they have lost/won, it's more difficult when you have lost, how they keep themselves together I do not know. As I said to you, and as a federer fan, I have never once heard federer refer to an injury. Ever. And I read his presscon, and looked at the questions that were directly asked of him, and his replies. They asked him directly about his "movement and body", so it was not as if he disclosed it before they asked the question. If it were me vamosrafa, i would not have said anything, but he did and that was his choice. There are many other players, novak (with his breathing ailments), rafa (with his knees), murray (with his split kneecap - of which I had no idea until he talked about it in his interview at FO), roddick (with his knee operation), I could go on, I have these interviews in front of me, but ultimately VF, good luck to your man tomorrow. After all the negative press last year, he has proved all the press totally wrong -

I know a lot of my friends who also support federer feel similarly to me. It is very strange that on Monday he will be world no. 3. He hasn't been so "low" :), since November 2003. It doesn't bother me, I would rather him lift a few more trophies. But Rafa has worked hard to get where he is, he is more than worthy.

Enjoy the match tomorrow. I do think it is a foregone conclusion, but I really hope that Tomas puts up something resembling a fight and doesn't make it too easy!

maxi , 7/3/10 10:34 AM


vamosrafa, federer gets a lot of bad press for the things that he doesn't say, with little acknowledgement for the things he does say about rafa, murray, novak. And there are plenty out there. Here is one I found yesterday, read it if you want.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/article7107845. ece

I know this is about the Berdych "lack of praise", though Mcenroe and Becker who were commentating on the match, didn't feel that the presser federer gave was as bad as it had been painted. You'll disagree, as is your right.

maxi , 7/3/10 10:40 AM


again thanks for ur replies and patience. ok firstly rafa calling berdych a 'bad person' , haha, well u dont need to praise the opponent when he doesnt deserve it , simple! had berdych played only good tennis to beat rafa and had rafa said anything negative without a reason then u cud have said rafa was at fault really... did u see what berdi did? he 'ssshhheed' rafa's home crowd with an angry face so nadal obv felt really bad..berdi later admitted too that he was at fault and he apologized !

and i am saying it again, my slight criticism was based on the fact that fed's disclosure of injuries comes at the wrong time often, not always of course but sometimes...right after the presser when any player does that, it leads to :taking credit away from ur conqueror who deserves plaudits. i was expecting especially more praise from fed given his feats, records and age...i mean he has won far more than any one else so at this stage if he wins more he has every right to be happy and be satisfied becoz he deserves it, but at thsi stage is he loses he shud be full of praise for yungsters and say i will be back ....we cannot compare federere tpo nadal,murray, nole to nole simply becoz of the stages of their careers. those are youngdters with greater willingness to win perhaps becoz they are achieving...

how nice would it have been for sampras in 2001 if he had been short of praise for fed and just kept on criticising his own game ...but pete didnt do it, he mainly praised the young man who topped him on that day and pete like roger was at a stage where he had won 7 wimb and 13 slams so due to these records i think its sort of ungratefullness if u dont accept the moment and just admit u were outdone, we all know fed has outdone opponents countless number of times and he cant do tha always... federer fan or a nadal fan, doesnt matter, if rafa does the thing u can point it out, whenever he in his presser says somethng to take credit away u can point out and i wil admit, he takes more times between points , do i or can i deny that?no, its obv ,being a rafa fan doesnt mean i wont say he doesnt do that...same for fed's case here.

i have clarified my pnt well i guess,nice talking to you..and thanks for teh article.

vamosrafa , 7/3/10 12:44 PM


maxi: You cannot be serious! With all the time you spend trawling for press comments to support your arguments, are these the best you could dredge up?

Example 1: he said 'you have to give credit to your opponent'. That's the equivalent of a child saying 'mummy told me to thank you for having me to tea', or the greeting 'Hallo, how are you?' when you aren't the least bit interested in the answer. i.e. basic meaningless politeness.

Example 2: 'he played "great", he has been consistent all year." You call this praise? It's the phrase teachers write in school reports when there is nothing positive to say about a pupil. It's called 'damning with faint praise'.

Example 3: Rafa did not call Berdych a 'bad person'. You are referring to the incident at the '06 Madrid Masters when Berdych gestured to a rowdy crowd to be quiet after he had just won the match. That in itself was bad sportsmanship.

Remember at that time Rafa spoke very little English.
His actual words 'that was bad' was his way of letting Berdych know it was a 'bad move' to anger the Spanish supporters.

End of term report:
Maxi needs to work harder and provide better evidence to support her theories.

ed251137 , 7/3/10 3:47 PM


you see vamosrafa, this is the problem with the discussion we are having, in comes ed and starts something up which is unnecessary. ed. take a break. you really think i care what you think? you are full of negative comments every time i try to have a discussion and you wonder why there are hardly any federer fans here, because of snide comments like yours. don't worry ed. soon you will be in very good company.

maxi , 7/3/10 5:25 PM


ed,
awesome reply..
the comparisons you made were simply amazing!!
"mummy told me to thank you for having me to tea'"
priceless!! :-)
Imagine Roger saying, "Mirka told me to say he played well, though I don't think so ?"

maxi,
don't wanna anger you or so..
but since i have been followinfg this argument just want to tell you should concentrate on finding answer to what vamos asked..
Vamos asked this "has rafa ever told about his injury, right after the match, without being asked about it by the reporters, like federer did yesterday? if yes, support your answer with he links for that interview."
Well, you should find an answer regarding that!!

P.S. don't say anything to me, like I'm a fed hater or so...
I'm just a kid, who loves numbers.. :P

clayking , 7/3/10 6:10 PM


clayking: that's just the best response EVER! :)

deuce , 7/3/10 7:25 PM


clayking, my, my. sarcasm personified. clayking, there are plenty of interviews taht rafa has given when he has repeatedly gone on and on about his injuries, you know this to be correct. It's all in print, if you want to conveniently turn a blind eye to it, that's up to you. really dont want to converse with you if you cant be sensible or honest. And you said it. You're just a kid.

Deuce. you write so differently on tennis.x, two different people, with diverse styles. sweetness and light on tennis.x, but a bit more bite here, eh deuce?

For a change, let's talk about rafa's code violation, or novak's smashing of his racquet, at wimbledon of all places? Oh. I forgot. It's only Roger who is imperfect. How convenient that these incidents are glossed over. Wouldn't expect anything less. Seems like I am the only federer fan here right now, so it doesn't surprise me that you arrive in a pack looking for a fight. I'm out tonight, so enjoy it between you.

maxi , 7/3/10 8:40 PM


My,my... don't you really see the difference... maxi???
Rafa got code violation... well he is taking long time to serve. No rafan is trying to prove that it was incorrect!
Nole got his... well he deserved it!!! ...no theories how umpire hates Nole... no excuses... no three pages of explanations how it was pure sarcasm... and so on!!!
Rafa and Nole don't have sportsmanship awards from days of Columbus discovery of America 'till today.
THAT is diference!!!! Novak's interview after match... Rafa's interview... Muzza's interview... compare it with Fed's...

zare , 7/3/10 9:47 PM


maxi , what is the point of bringing in code violations? i was talking abt an issue, gave plenty of examples to supprt it and its a truth so it cant be refuted. Please tell me those interviews when nadal right after the match talks on and on and on abt his injuries, i even corrected ur RG09 misconception , nadal DIDNT MENTION A SINGLE WORD ABT HIS BAD KNEE despite the fact that hsi knees were so bad that he had to miss tennsi for 2 months ! sorry vut i cannnot control others, if you think u have a point prove it with examples and beleive me I WILL support you and wont let any rafa fan criticize ur posts. I was not comparing nadal/federer or federer/djokovic/muzza, i was referring to an issue which i felt needs to be discussed becoz i felt bad for berdych. and u can see berdych was very upset abt fed's interview and how many time sdo you see players getting upset over interviews from other players.

vamosrafa , 7/3/10 10:00 PM


clayking: i think you can take that to mean that....
no such article exists...either a case of denial or the point has been lost. i'm thinking the former.

zare i always love reading your posts...always very pointed and funny lol

i wonder...ed...are you sitting at a corner and laughing at what you started? i am!! nice to have a laugh on tt sometimes, don't get a lot of chances except when atr shows up.

homos , 7/4/10 6:51 AM


maxi: can't you see that clayking is one of the straightest, most honest, knowledgeable posters round here. His knowledge of tennis is astonishing as is his knowledge of facts and figures. All he was doing was asking you to produce facts and figures to support your arguement without bringing any emotion into it and without accusing him of being anti-fed. I think he loves tennis too much to be anti anyone BTW. His answer was self-depricating which I also love. That's why his answer is so neat.

deuce , 7/4/10 8:08 AM


hahaha zari, YOU ROCK !!!

Share with me a joint or two waherk herk herk !!!

Raindrops , 7/4/10 8:40 AM


clayking always talks sense......blaming him for senselessness and dishonesty is prepostorous.........VAMOS CK!!!

vrael , 7/4/10 8:41 AM


deuce, 7/4/10 8:08 AM The problem is everytime she is challenged she resorts to making childish comments. - and she doesn't do irony!!!!!!!!!

Oh, and I forgot. She doesn't do irony!!!!!!!!!!

She doesn't even recognise there are plenty of tennis fans on TT who are Federer supporters and we manage to have civiiled discussions even when there are strong differences of opinion.

She is right about one thing tho. There are fewer Fednatics spewing out venom on TT at the moment. My guess is they have turned into FedUps because there is so little to gloat about these days.

ed251137 , 7/4/10 9:05 AM


"maxi , what is the point of bringing in code violations? i was talking abt an issue, gave plenty of examples to supprt it and its a truth so it cant be refuted..."

vamosrafa,

maxi is an expert in throwing in red herrings everytime the discussions don't turn in his favor, get used to it. :-)

phoenix , 7/4/10 9:40 AM


oh i forgot, she's a she. sorry for that. :-(

phoenix , 7/4/10 9:44 AM


I bet Federer wins the Sportsmanship award again this year. I remember Berdych saying that he voted for him once, so now he knows he voted for the wrong person.

nadline , 7/4/10 9:46 AM


homos, 7/4/10 6:51 AM Always up for a bit of a giggle.

End of Term Report:
Needs to learn to accept constructive criticism.

nadline, 7/4/10 9:46 AM Been wondering myself who will get voted for this year. If the same name crops up again we will know for sure the whole thing is rigged.

ed251137 , 7/4/10 10:07 AM


Well, maxi,
expected an answer like that!!
but still you have not yet given one single link to answer the question.
I guess you are still searching for that elusive link.
have a happy time searching.
at the moment, I have to agree with homos at 7/4/10 6:51 AM.

Oh thanks deuce n vrael for saying that.
I thought maxi was also a good fan..
but after the "break nadal back" comment, i know better..

nadline,
oh its federer again..
what difference will one vote of berdych make??

clayking , 7/4/10 10:35 AM


sportsmanship award is more of a popularity contest but thats not the issue here, I had a minor issue here which referred to something else.

anyway, 3.5 hrs left before the final , cant wait for rafa to lift his 2nd wimbledon trophy.nadal's record in major finals is SUBLIME, he has NEVER played a bad final,infact he has played AWESOME in all the finalsso I expect more of the same.vamoss !!

and yea clayking is a good fan with plenty of knowledge , i love doing research and doing research is also clayking's trademark :)

vamosrafa , 7/4/10 11:40 AM


nadline,
oh its federer again..
what difference will one vote of berdych make??

clayking , 7/4/10 10:35 AM


I guess they don't count Federer's votes they weigh them.

On the ATP website he has also been nominated as Player of the Year or something like that along with Rafa and someone else I can't remember. What is Federer being nominated for - he's only won one tournament this year and made one other final. Why don't they just sign a contract with him that for as long as he continues to play as a pro he will win all the awards and be done with it.

nadline , 7/4/10 12:45 PM


clayking, 7/4/10 10:35 AM Methinks you are a slow learner. You really should have realised by now you wont get a coherent response. You do realise you probably made the poor girl stay up all night Googling trying to find the proof to substantiate her claim!!!!!

ed251137 , 7/4/10 2:25 PM


clayking, 7/4/10 10:35 AM Methinks you are a slow learner. You really should have realised by now you wont get a coherent response. You do realise you probably made the poor girl stay up all night Googling trying to find the proof to substantiate her claim!!!!!

ed251137 , 7/4/10 2:28 PM


Sorry. Tried to refresh the page and produced a double entry post.

Nadline: 'they don't count Federer's votes they weigh them.' I'm still ROFLing.

ed251137 , 7/4/10 2:35 PM


There is only way to make some of the Rafatards (Fed bashers) to shut up .. Fed coming back and winning some tourneys .. hopefully he will come back stronger and fitter ...

justtennis , 7/4/10 2:51 PM


Well....let me see...I am not Rafatard... wait a sec... I am not even Nadal's fan... ***Justtennis can I bee at least FED BASHER PLEASE...PLEASE....***
Yes, yes he will come back... stronger, fitter, younger...sh1t man..!! He'll be virgin again!!!.... gooooood prediction!!!!

zare , 7/4/10 3:25 PM


yeah Zare .. Fed wl be a virgin .. so will u too ..

justtennis , 7/4/10 6:47 PM


@ed251137, 7/4/10 2:28 PM
me thinks you are right..
I am a bit slow..
but then better late than never!!

clayking , 7/4/10 7:11 PM




There is only way to make some of the Rafatards (Fed bashers) to shut up .. Fed coming back and winning some tourneys .. hopefully he will come back stronger and fitter ...

justtennis , 7/4/10 2:51 PM


Easier said than done.

nadline , 7/4/10 7:31 PM


That's too funny Zare. You could always change your screen name.

ed251137 , 7/4/10 7:53 PM


ed,

and i will be the first one to suggest to Zare for a new screen name, Zare I cannot think any better screen name aside from "maxe", how do you like it? :-E

Raindrops , 7/4/10 8:33 PM


I'm thinking of changing my screen name to MaxiFedup

ed251137 , 7/4/10 10:46 PM


Raindrops,

I'm here! I am exhausted but beyond happy and thrilled! Now that I have already cried my tears of joy, I can join in the celebration. I couldn't sleep last night, but woke up just in time to see Rafa being interviewed by MacEnroe after he won! I have watched match and it was no contest!

It was just like Isabeau said - Berdych seemed to let the nerves get to him and just couldn't do anything to Rafa. I felt in my heart that no one could take this from Rafa, but I so superstitious. I am glad that it was an easy win this time! We won't have to hear all that nonsense about the light fading, it came down to one or two points and could have gone either way, blah, blah, blah. This win had a big exclamation point after it! Now no one dare question Rafa's greatness!

Eight grand slams!! Two RG and Wimbledon back-to-back wins! I feel like I have died and gone to heaven!

After a good rest, Rafa can go and win the one slam that has eluded him to get the career slam.

I love you, Rafa!

Nativenewyorker , 7/4/10 11:51 PM


ed251137 , 7/4/10 10:46 PM,

LOL!! That's the funniest thing I have read here!

MaxiFedup! That's a polite way of saying what I feel! :)

Nativenewyorker , 7/4/10 11:57 PM


"Yes, yes he will come back... stronger, fitter, younger...sh1t man..!! He'll be virgin again!!!.... gooooood prediction!!!!" - zare , 7/4/10 3:25 PM


If Federer is good at sarcasm, zare is better. :-)

phoenix , 7/5/10 7:38 AM


!!! ALL THE FEDFARTS ARE BURRIED ALIVE ... MANY CONDOLENCES ... RIP !!!

Raindrops , 7/5/10 12:58 PM


Dillusional Fedfarts, your persistence for Federer to reclaim No. 1 this year and win a Calendar Slam will remain an illusion. You are all simply a laughing stock haha.

Rafa has a better shot now to win all four slams in one stretch.

As Beth Medler sang:

The crying fedfarts are watching us
The crying fedfarts are watching us
The crying fedfarts are watching us ... FROM A DISTANCE !!!

Har har de har.

Raindrops , 7/5/10 1:33 PM


WHERE ARE THEY NOW?

torres, chr18, SenorPlaid, Fedexfan, FedisTheGoat, tj600, Rafterfan.

Some Fedfans have deserted TT, they kept telling Rafans that we did not like tennis, we only love Rafa, but it is evident now that Fedfans only love Fed when he is on top, they don't stand by him when he is down - what a shame.

Fed might take some time off until the USO to get his fitness back, back problem takes ages to heal, so he might not be able to defend his Cincy title.

nadline , 7/5/10 2:00 PM


nadline,

We should give Fed the rest that he deserves(How many players have played 40+ GS in a row, without missing anyone dut to injury).

Fed was the player who made it possible to win 2 or 3 GS in a year(from 2004 to 2007 and 2009), otherwise one GS a year plus semis or final was an achivement.

He played the game the way no one had ever seen.(Consistensy was something which came Fed).Still 23 Semis or 25quartet*.

We should hope he should be fit sooner because tennis need him.

Don't you think if we will get a Fed Nadal Final it wont be a good match ???because whenever they play eachother they bring their best...

champ00289 , 7/5/10 2:57 PM


FEDERER LOOKING TO LIFE OFF COURT WITH BID TO BUY BASLE TOURNAMENT

Neil Harman, The Times, 5th July 2010


Roger Federer, dethroned as Wimbledon champion, has wasted little time in attempting to make a further signficant imprint on men's tennis.

The 16 times grand-slam tournament champion has offered to buy his home-town tournament in Basle, Switzerland.

As of the initial contact with Roger Brennwald, the 64 year old businessman who has built the Basle event from the bottom, the signs were that the tournament directorship was not for budging. But this demonstrates the the 28 year old may be looking beyond his playing days........................

nadline , 7/5/10 3:21 PM


Rafa fans running riot, it is nothing less than a great achievement, 3 Masters and 2 GS - he just looks unbeatable.
But right off Fed at your own peril. Off late their careers have just been pendulum swings .. so let's (the Rafatards can skip this part) hope they get back to playing their best, because never ever has tennis had more to offer...
Yeah .. a fit Federer is the biggest piece of the puzzle, let's just hope he does come back and the funny guys put their foot in the place it suits them best ...

justtennis , 7/5/10 3:36 PM


Champ,
did you say "Consistensy was something which came Fed).Still 23 Semis or 25quartet*"

If you mean consistency referring to semi streak, it came with fed.
but consistency never came with fed..
Or else how do you explain people winning 4 slams a year, or guys being no.1 for 8 years???

clayking , 7/5/10 4:44 PM


a fit Federer is the biggest piece of the puzzle, let's just hope he does come back and the funny guys put their foot in the place it suits them best ...

justtennis , 7/5/10 3:36 PM



And Rafa is the piece that will always be missing from Roger's jigsaw.

nadline , 7/5/10 5:23 PM


@clayking
hello. nice to see that you learned ur lesson about maxi :P About Feds injuries: They arent going to get any better as he ages. He has been able to be free of injuries most of the time,but the other shoe its about to drop,and the injuries are going to manifest. I wouldnt be surprised if there comes a time if he needs cortisone injections like agassi did.

tj600 , 7/5/10 5:23 PM


@champ00289 , 7/5/10 2:57 PM

Of course Federer needs a rest, and he needs to sort his back out. I've noticed that he puts a lot of strain on his back when he strikes the ball, the middle of his back goes into a concave shape and I've often wondered why he never complains of bachache.

nadline , 7/5/10 5:30 PM


@nadline
the back problem is easily sorted,all he needs to do is get cortisone injections b4 every match like Agassi did. ..-.-

tj600 , 7/5/10 5:35 PM


clayking,

How many player in the open era has able to dominate almost all surface throughout the year.He won 3 slams in 2004 , 2006 and 2007.2 slams in 2005 and 2009 and one in 2003,2008 and 2010 (uso still remaining).

2008 was his worst year but still he was able to win USO and reach finals of RG and wimbly and semi in AO.

His record speaks for him..

All RafaFans will say Rafa has won 18 Masters ...

11master came on clay and there is no masters on grass otherwise Fed would have added further more to his record book..

champ00289 , 7/5/10 5:48 PM


champ00289, true fed has dominted the game in such a way that has never been seen before, but as clayking mentioned past champions had their own ways of dominating...."11master came on clay and there is no masters on grass otherwise Fed would have added further more to his record book"

ohk buddy then what do u think would have been the resulting grand slam tallies of both players had two out of 4 slams been played on clay rather than hard(by far nadal's weakest surface)??? i always think nadal is very unlucky that hard courts make up 2/4 slams per year.

and ppl talk abt diff numbers, streaks, record ...i am mentioning a record which might not be very important but for me alteast its a very telling stat.

nadal is now 100-1 in grand slams when he has won the 1st set in a slam!!!!!! I MEAN is this even possible? people make amazing records like fed did, in their peaks...but nadal throughout his career has maintained a near-perfect record of winning all matches in slams once he gets that set set in his pocket.. AMAZING RECORD.

vamosrafa , 7/5/10 6:05 PM


vamosrafa,

Rafa has amproved a lot but still he dont have as much strokes as Fed but he has the Will to win each and every point specially at the big moments(the same is missing from fed side)..

champ00289 , 7/5/10 6:16 PM


champ..
that's his consistency..
I'm not arguing that..

The point here was you said "consistency was something which came with fed'
Of course that is completely wrong..
federer being consistent does not mean he was the guy who brought consistency into tennis, as you are implying in your sentence..

And what do you mean by open era??
before open era, was it badminton being played??
And anyway, Borg was nearly as consistent as fed anyway, only thing is that he skipped AO , due to which he could not create streaks or could remain No.1 for long..
but after his FO loss in 1976, he had a 100-7 record at Grand slams (a 93.4% w-l record)..
from 2004, fed has a W-L record of 164-11 at Gs (93.7 % w-l record)so, not much difference there..

clayking , 7/5/10 6:19 PM


clayking,

did you read this one "'Animal' Nadal can eat up US Open: McEnroe".

URL :http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/tennis/top-stories/Animal-N adal-can-eat-up-US-Open-McEnroe/articleshow/6131360.cms

champ00289 , 7/5/10 6:36 PM


yup champ,
already read it..
anyway thanks for providing the link..

clayking , 7/5/10 6:47 PM


i agree with clayking, fed was highly consistent but past champions were consistent i their own rights ...borg won 89.8% of his career slam matches and this is a ridiculos number, fed's % is arnd 88% and nadal's arnd 86%..... gonzalez was in the top 10 for damn 20 yrs !!! some pros cant even play for 20 yrs so staying in the top 10 for 20 yrs = WWOWWWW!!! height of consistency so it depends.

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