9/11/09 8:10 AM | Ricky Dimon
The Thursday night quarterfinal showdown between Rafael Nadal and Fernando Gonzalez has been postponed due to rain. It will resume, weather permitting, on Friday in a second-set tiebreaker with Nadal having won the first set.
At long last, rain finally came at the U.S. Open.
A tournament with an extensive history of rain delays, the U.S. Open went unscathed for 10 full days and almost 11, but the skies opened up at an inopportune time for Rafael Nadal and Fernando Gonzalez. Their quarterfinal clash on Thursday night was postponed during a second-set tiebreaker, with Nadal leading 7-6(4), 6-6(3-2). The current 'breaker is on serve with Gonzalez behind by one point, but serving.
Play will resume on Friday afternoon if the weather so allows.
A previous rain delay occurred at 2-2 in the second set and lasted 75 minutes. That temporarily halted a high-quality match in which neither man has even glimpsed a break point. Gonzalez has won only 12 of 68 return points, while Nadal has taken 26 of 86 (30 percent to Gonzalez's dismal 18 percent).
As expected, the underdog Chilean is taking it to his opponent and dictating play, while Nadal has been the far more consistent of the two. Gonzalez has 31 winners and 36 errors, while the third-seeded Spaniard has hit just 16 winners but has made only 11 mistakes.
Nadal's lone blemish is--once again--a recurring abdominal strain. He took an injury timeout to get treated following the first set. "In the first set, it was very, very bad," said Uncle Toni. "Now, it's a little better. It's difficult. We must win this set."
Tell a friend »
I like Gonzalez, but Nadal is my favorite after Novak, I wish him to stay focused cause Gonzo is very dangerous player, however, I'm quite sure, Nadal will get it anyway...
gordana , 9/11/09 9:21 AM
i wonder what conspiracy those of you who have been complaining about the schedule are gona come up with ....DP,Djoker,and Fed had a tribunal around a fire and had the rain dance to make it pour ? ...haha ...
and btw ...not that i care anything more about the match than just the outcome of it ....but that uncle of his has been known to skew a lot of facts ...i just dont get how u go from having pain ...to playing well without pain to having pain again ....i mean ..you either get better or worse ....or could they be doing something wrong on the off days ...too much training ? i duno ....it all just sounds so fishy ....
i still think this match will be over in straight on friday ...but im hoping for a gonzo comeback....he is bossing the points ...but too much UE ..that goes down and we have our upset ..
C'MON !
USO09...where we celebrate our sweet 16th !
fedexfan , 9/11/09 9:31 AM
LOL, fedexfan, That was hillarious....
torres9 , 9/11/09 10:36 AM
whatever it is its damn bad luck wid nadal whose recovery times for the semi and may b the final have bin marred
vamosrafa , 9/11/09 10:37 AM
vamosrafa - you could actually look at it another way - i didnt see the full match - but if rafa's abdominal strain was bad enough for the physio to come on for a TMO, then surely, rafa having the extra time off can only benefit him? the rain has worked in his favour - so i dont know why people are complaining?
maxi , 9/11/09 11:46 AM
they are complaining cos of the rain dance maxi :P....shhh....its all a conspiracy ....havent you heard ?
:P
C'MON !!
USO09..where we celebrate our sweet 16th !!
fedexfan , 9/11/09 11:57 AM
I do not see a single Rafa fan complaining here. All I see are Fed loud mouths blabbering away! What's up guys? Insecure much?
phoenix , 9/11/09 12:08 PM
phoenix...go back to the articles since the beginning of the USO 09 and ull know what im talking about ...btw ...notice that i stopped saying "rafa fans" ...you said that !! ...SOME rafa fans are actually reasonable and i have taken a conscious effort not to generalize ...if u did not complaint then im not talking bout u ...
whats up ? whose insecure now ?
C'MON !!
USO09...where we celebrate our sweet 16th !
fedexfan , 9/11/09 12:31 PM
Am I talking about you? You admit then that you are a loud mouth blabber!!!
phoenix , 9/11/09 1:08 PM
phoenix, torres and fedexfan are not worth your time. whatever you say to them, they will never get it!
homos , 9/11/09 1:26 PM
okay ...so who are you talking about phoenix ? ...ricky , gordana , maxi , torr , vamosrafa or me ? or would rather call me more names to make your point ?
C'MON !!
USO09..where we celebrate our sweet 16th !
fedexfan , 9/11/09 1:33 PM
I just think back to the AO when Sir Smug got 3 days off before the final and came on court grinning like the cat that got the cream, thinking he had Rafa on the ropes, only to be sent packing crying like a baby who had had his dummy taken away.
F you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
You'll be a man, my son.
VAMOS RAFA!
carrie , 9/11/09 1:35 PM
ExFedfan...all the times blah blah about conspiracy...
Is it something very deep in your mind what is bugging you. Little Froyd know it is something true in that story and you masochisticaly cannot let it go...
More you mention it...more we are all convinced here how painfull that post is for you...
zare , 9/11/09 1:47 PM
Ricky, what are they going to do if it rains all day today as well? Seems like it will...Poor Rafa :(
stu , 9/11/09 1:57 PM
Thank you Carrie(hug), i needed that!
At least Rafa almost has 2 sets done and it's better than last years US Open results
(which he had already lost 2 sets before having to come back and play).
I just pray that they will not move him to Armstrong to finish the match.(he has not played there yet )
Things could always be worse and he has gotten some rest and will be fresh.
alik , 9/11/09 2:00 PM
alik, I think Rafa will prefer Armstrong, because he says Ashe is too windy, because it's so high it traps the wind on court.
I believe that if this title is not Rafa's to win this year, then so be it. These things ar sent to try us.
VAMOS RAFA!
carrie , 9/11/09 2:15 PM
i think the rain break can only serve to help rafa. he can get treatment on his abs, and go out there slightly fresher. it means that to win this title, he'll have to play 4 days in a row though, which is never a good thing. i can't see him winning it tbf. i think delpo will beat him
the organisers are rubbish though. they didn't factor rain in, despite what happened last year. and super saturday and 3 days to do first round? not necessary. wimbledon and ao don't need 3 days for 1st round. french does, but starts on sunday. if rafa overplays and ends up injured again, i think the organisers are gonna have to rethink. and apart from anything else, rafa should have had the day match yesterday. players should come first, not the crowd. he should not have been put on last just so there could be a bigger crowd. especially not towards the end of the tournament when rain is forecast and rest is needed
Sib69 , 9/11/09 2:24 PM
:) ..no zare ....i actually enjoyed writing bout the tribunal ....i thought it was fun ...nothing painful ...
anyways ...from carrie comments above its obvious to me she believes in the rain dance ceremony done for the fake punk cos somehow fed is implicated.
and btw , no one is under any delusions that the semi's or final is gona be any easier because of scheduling , fatigue , weather or the color of the tennis balls .
C'MON !!
USO09...where we celebrate our sweet 16th !
fedexfan , 9/11/09 2:29 PM
the rain is not going to stop for the entire day. they should make an exception for rafa and gonzo and have a best-of-3 match. then rafa will have to win just 1 more set (or a few more TB points) and start getting some rest for tomorrow....
stu , 9/11/09 2:51 PM
It's my birthday today and the sun always shines in England (at least where I am) on the 11th September without fail, so maybe they should fly out and complete the tourny here, except that we can't boast of a single hard court here.
Fedfanatics, you can mock all you want, I can see why you admire Sgt Smugalot - birds of a feather flock together. You are all just as self centered and selfish, choosing to glee in someones misfortune, rather than have an adult discussion on the shortcomings of the organisation of the USO.
carrie , 9/11/09 3:02 PM
nadal lost wimb 07 becoz OF RAIN!!! thank God he recocred well enuf at oz 09 to play the final...the pnt is...when are we gona see rafa in comfort wid the scheduling and that damn ONE TIME WHEN ROGER HAS TO FACE TOUGH TIMES LIKE THESE! not against roget at all..just wondering abt this...coincidences??but how many! i think nadal gonz match will be moved to LOUIS ARMSTRONG !
vamosrafa , 9/11/09 3:04 PM
happy birthday carrie! VAMOS!;p
vamosrafa , 9/11/09 3:06 PM
Nadal lost because he's not good enuff. Simple.
torres9 , 9/11/09 3:20 PM
Fedfans are running scared of Rafa, only when Rafa is unfit or tired does St Smug stand a chance of kissing any trophy. I would relish both of them competing in any match, but Oh no, his fans don't want that, so they are backing Delpo or anyone else that Fed owns, not Rafa who owns him.
VAMOS RAFA!
carrie , 9/11/09 3:21 PM
Yeah, yeah... Fed is running scared of Rafa. Who's been running from Fed 5 years in a row in the US Open?
Good plan. Better wait for the guy to become old and vulnerable to really push to the final. LOL... I really would like to see Nadal in the final of USO in the past 3 years but the guy dissapointed me. Maybe he's just scared.
torres9 , 9/11/09 3:41 PM
Thanks, vamosrafa.
carrie , 9/11/09 4:02 PM
Hy torres, have you jumped ship from Murray? Where exactly are you now, or are you midstream waiting to see who surfaces on Sunday?
carrie , 9/11/09 4:05 PM
carrie, you are being really unfair. I admire Federer and he is my favourite player and I do not appreciate being called arrogant or smug or what have you. Each person is individual and have our own reasons for liking whoever we want to like without adapting to the said person's so-called personality.
You also choose to attack Federer on scheduling preference, "rigged" cupcake draws and constantly saying/implying that he did not work for his career or his wins because it is "all in his favor". Pray tell, how is that adult???
I am getting really fed up of this site. Just because some people are SO FANATIC about their favourite players, there is simply no objectivity involve. Non whatsoever. You can hate Fed/Rafa/Nole/Murray but do not disrespect them by putting down their achievements. ALL OF THEM and all other players on tour work their HEARTS out to achieve whatever they have today.
I really dislike Murray but I will never say that his wins were "handed" to him or that he didn't work an ounce for his wins. Or that he is untalented and simply lucky to win when you can because it is not true.
To say Fed never worked for his wins? Immensely unfair. To say Rafa isn't great/using injury as an excuse? Immensely unfair. I can see both sides of the story, I have to wonder why other people can't.
jyannis , 9/11/09 4:11 PM
jyannis, you feel the way you do, and please allow me to feel the way I do. Also, why don't you round on the Fedfans who are wallowing in Rafa's present predicament and exhalting Federer to the heights.
Go look around the web, and see if I am on my own in what I think. These things need to be said. No one can argur that the scheduling at the USO has not been dealt fairly.
carrie , 9/11/09 4:21 PM
I rest my case.
jyannis , 9/11/09 4:34 PM
I have to say though, with regards to the article (in which I have veered from in my first comment for that I apologise) - I think USO needs to rethink the whole Super Saturday thing. Seriously not fair to Rafa (or Gonzo) to be playing Delpo after like less than or a little more than 24 hours rest.
I know rain cannot be controlled but surely scheduling can?! Both semis should be moved to Sunday, or something. And even so, Rafa/Gonzo is already disadvantaged. And also, how unfair it is that the Session 22 ticket-holders can't use their ticket to watch the remainder of the Rafa-Gonzo match? That is ridiculous.
My other response to this is: BUILD A ROOF. If Wimbledon can get past their upper-crust obsession with tradition and built a freakin' roof, I don't get why Arthur Ashe can't do it.
And Uncle Toni also needs to stop exaggerating.
jyannis , 9/11/09 4:48 PM
jyannis, you are confusing me with someone who cares about what you think.
You won't hear from me again.
carrie , 9/11/09 4:50 PM
And further clarifying my comment on Uncle Toni - not that I believe Rafa is faking it (the day Rafa fakes anything will be the day pigs fly with golden wings), but I somehow feel that he does exaggerate. Rewinding to the time where he said Rafa's foot injury was career ending in 2005(?).
Anyway I certainly hope he is exaggerating as I would not want Rafa to be in serious pain.
jyannis , 9/11/09 4:53 PM
Oh Carrie please take a deep breath and relax because it is not up to the fans to decide anything it is always up to the players who go out there and play the match. You should know better than to suggest that anyone is scared of anything especially someone who has owned New York for the last FIVE years. Also do not forget 15 Grand Slams that my dear does not come easy and if anything Roger knows that. So to go and suggest that he will care very much who he meets is preposterous because look what happened at Wimbledon this year he had 18-2 record against Rodick and almost lost the match because Andy played one of the best matches I have ever seen but Roger managed to win it some how. Also look at Rafa this year he went to Paris as heavy favourite in the FO only to loose to Soderling who everyone considered to be average at best . So Carrie it is up to those guys to go out there and play the match, yes it can always go either way but that is only a proof of how great and how close these guys are because sometimes only one or two points will separate them from winning or loosing. So instead of being all worked up about it enjoy it while it lasts it is one of the great things about this sport not just this whole Roger-Rafa rivalry but also the fact that they respect each other very much which is rare in any sport but especially tennis since most of the top guys in the past simply hated each other and never even bothered to hide the fact. As for who will win well maybe Roger will have an edge since maybe he called the guy upstairs and arranged this whole weather thing to help his quest for immortality. Oh but again he is not there yet Novak may have something to say about all this and so does Gonzales and Del Portro on the other side of the draw. If you should know anything it is this it is not done until it is done and the chair empire says ?game set match? than and only than things are finished. So what do we do? I guess we shell wait and see as always.
brenda , 9/11/09 4:56 PM
There are objective people here. They just don't post as often because they don't argue.
-Arvis
Arvis , 9/11/09 5:09 PM
damn right, Arvis!
stu , 9/11/09 5:19 PM
The entire weekend is going to be a washout. What are they going to do?
stu , 9/11/09 5:42 PM
Happy Birthday carrie!! :)
homos , 9/11/09 5:52 PM
I just look back to A/O when Sir smug had 3 days off before the final"
Well said, it happens time and time again, and I think its appauling that both Rafa and Gonzo should be put on after the womens semi. Their match should be finished first as to give them more rest, whats wrong with these people, the scheduleling sucks.. I am an admirer of Feds game but I too find him a little smug.. He is always in favour of praising himself, isn't that for us to do Roger?
Good luck to Rafa today anyway, lets hope he feels better after some rest!!!
afrodite7 , 9/11/09 6:00 PM
http:twitter.com/petchtennis
that they are going to start all 3 matches at one time.
Rafa will still play on AA!
alik , 9/11/09 6:09 PM
alik - thats if it actually stops raining!
RickyDimon , 9/11/09 6:13 PM
Thanks, Homos.
carrie , 9/11/09 6:41 PM
carrie. are you okay? first of all happy birthday to you. I have not posted recently on this thread, because i have been reading a bit more about the schedule/timings etc. if you dont mind me saying (we seem to have this conversation a lot lately, dont we?) - i am copying something here for you to read - go on to tennis.x carrie, like - immediately! (if you can ignore "tennisbullies" (that's his nickname), the rest of the posts are pretty "fair" and actually it was nice posting there today, because some of the comments on here are becoming unauthorised/unfair in respect of all players - anyway, sean randall (solid journalist - and i think fair), has written about it - a lot of the comments you have said carrie (i can understand how you feel), but honestly. stop blaming federer. all of you actually who do it. it isn't the players fault. go over there carrie and put your point across. I post there under "madmax", you'll see what i have said - NFL influence (I wasnt fully aware of the USA scheduling), but honestly, i dont think anything can be done about it - try not to get too upset by it - you join millions and it seems that money will ALWAYS be put before the players carrie. that's not the players fault - and least of all Federer.
Sean Randall - tennis.x 09.11.09
As for the scheduling, I?m seeing a lot of disgust aimed at the USTA and the US Open. Is the men?s schedule unfair? Yes. Could it be adjusted to give players a day off between the semifinals and finals? Absolutely. Will it happen anytime soon? Probably not.
Ever since the mid-1980s when had the ?Greatest Day in Tennis? with McEnroe, Lendl, etc, The US Open has fallen in love with the idea and the spectacle of ?Super Saturday?. So my guess is that Saturday?s schedule is not changing anytime soon. It?s in stone. Two men?s semifinals and a women?s final.
And really there?s nothing wrong with that, it?s just playing the men?s final the very next day that raises an issue.
They certainly could play the men?s final on Monday like they did a year ago due to the rain (and might have to again this year if Nadal does not finish today) but it runs right into the NFL Monday Night Football juggernaut and nobody wants to go head-to-head with football in primetime, and you cannot play the final during the day because kids are in school and people are back at work.
So we are stuck with what we have. And yes, for the men?s players it is unfair especially for guys like Nadal and DelPo who have to win three best-of-five matches in four days (Thursday, Saturday, Sunday) or even four in six days.
The schedule isn?t great but like it or not it?s part of what defines the US Open. Unfortunately, the tournament has long decided to put entertainment first, then the players.
if you do post carrie, you will see a distinct difference - jane is lovely poster/as is margot, there is NONE of this childish stuff over here (apart from tennisbullies, who may go under a different name on this forum - am trying to work that one out).
maxi , 9/11/09 8:37 PM
Seeing as I don't follow fed matches as avidly as his fans, I am wondering if any fedfans could tell me when fed has ever faced this same scenario in a slam? Many here have clearly blamed the organizers, not fed , yet the fans are getting attacked for saying that. Plus, this situation is NOT unique to the USO. It has happened in EVERY other slam there is.
fan4tennis , 9/11/09 9:19 PM
This is for fedex, who LOVES to call Rafa a "fake punk" and for anyone else who wonders about talk of injury:
Rafa stated in interview from USO site:
"The other day you guys asked me a little bit for the problem what I had on court, and I said I don't want to talk about injuries. And it's true. And it's normal. It's fair, I think, no? I'm playing a tournament. I have another match after one day. It's normal don't want to talk about injuries, no, because you have next opponent. I still the same, no? After the tournament, if I have something, I gonna say. "
For the MILLIONTH time, what player is going to be stupid enough to advertise any injury they have while they are still in the tournament, so all of your arguments of 'well he never said there was a problem before' fall flat!
fan4tennis , 9/11/09 9:27 PM
I think by now the Rafa/ Gonzo would have given up playing anything today, let alone SF tomorrow. When they do go on court, they will treat it as a best of three, no matter who wins the second set tie break.
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise.
VAMOS RAFA!
carrie , 9/11/09 10:39 PM
what are they going to do? play a monday final?
stu , 9/11/09 10:58 PM
Well...this whole thing really sucks. I seriously do not know how are they planning to get through all the matches remaining with the weather the way it is. I hope USO takes a leaf out of Wimbly's book and BUILD A ROOF. Especially if there has ALWAYS been rain problems!! Geez!
fan4tennis, I haven't followed Federer's career THAT closely so someone else would be able to answer your question better. I do have a question for you though, regarding Rafa. I haven't followed his personal stuff quite that closely as well, but from what I read/know, Rafa really doesn't like to talk about injury during a tournament for obvious reasons, even though if he is having trouble. What I wonder about is Uncle Toni though. So often he makes comments about Rafa's injuries saying they are seriously career threatening during a tournament, so I'm just wondering, does that affect Rafa? It seems sort of strange that Uncle Toni would go against Rafa's wishes, although then again they share a very unique relationship unlike other players with their coaches. Just wondering what are your thoughts on it as a Rafa fan.
jyannis , 9/11/09 11:10 PM
jyannis, most Rafa fans rely more on what Rafa says than what Toni says. The prevailing opinion is that if Toni is ever upbeat and optimistic, then there must be a problem in translation (Toni does not speak English well at all). Around Wimby, all the Rafa fans were saying that Toni usually overstates things, and that we were waiting to hear what Rafa said instead. Even with Rafa fans saying that, fans of other players still chose to concentrate only on what Toni said so sometimes it is useless to even try to explain on here. That quote I just posted that Rafa said, is something I have said a million times, but again, it's useless to explain because certain people already have their mindset and you can't change it. Toni has recently said that if Rafa said he didn't want to talk about injuries, then he wasn't either. But Rafa doesn't control what Toni says, since like you noticed, they share a very unique relationship unlike other players with their coaches.
They just cancelled the womens matches but no word on mens matches yet. (Is 5:15 pm EST here). They did do an update on Rafa and Mary Jo Fernandez said that Rafa's camp is tight-lipped about the strain but did say that he reaggravated it in the first set last night. They showed that point and it was obvious. She said he didn't train but did some exercises, but mostly has been playing foosball in the player's lounge while waiting--lol.
fan4tennis , 9/11/09 11:21 PM
Thanks for that, fan4tennis. Good point made on things being lost in translation! I've often felt that Toni is too harsh on Rafa in the media (always saying he is not good enough etc) and at times it irks me, so your insight shed new light for me on the things being said by Toni at times. I would of course rely more on what Rafa says at well, but given Toni's relationship with Rafa sometimes I do wonder. That being said I honestly hope Rafa's abdominal injury isn't too serious and will be manageable with physiotherapy and maybe some painkillers. Still wanting to see him in the USO final!!
yup, read from the USO site, Session 23 cancelled. Looks like men's finals might be played Tuesday even, at the rate things are going! (BUILD A ROOOOF) The picture of Rafa playing foosball is honestly rather adorable. :) Hope it relaxes him after such frustrating two days.
jyannis , 9/11/09 11:31 PM
Well...Rafa v Gonzo not resuming today. Can I say, major suckfest? :(
jyannis , 9/12/09 12:30 AM
According to the commentators here (JMac, Enberg and Carillo), the men's wasn't cancelled and they are hoping for sometime tonight. That was at 6pm EST. Of course, they could be wrong--lol--but it was fun watching some of the historic matches from "back in the day." Was a little irked that they at least didn't show the Rafa-Gonzo match up to this point. JMac did say that maybe if all is cancelled, that maybe that is the way it should be, considering what day it is for us here in America.
I too feel Toni can be too harsh at times but if that is what Rafa wants, then so be it. He obviously knows how to handle it. They have done interviews together where they both were cracking up like little kids and having a blast so who knows and who is to question it?
fan4tennis , 9/12/09 12:32 AM
This is the latest from the US Open site:
Weather and Schedule Information
(As of 09/11/09 at 6:15pm ET)
We are sorry to announce that due to the continued rain, we have postponed today?s session #23, including the women's singles semifinals and the men's doubles final. Additionally, the Rafael Nadal and Fernando Gonzalez match has been postponed.
carrie , 9/12/09 12:34 AM
sucks. rafa will be the first match tomorrow, then women in the evening. the mens semis on sunday?
stu , 9/12/09 12:40 AM
Completely ridiculously unfair to have men's semis on Sunday. Rafa or Gonzo will be majorly disadvantaged, given both their games are on the physical side and they definitely need at least a day to recover. Delpo will just steamroll whoever it is at the other side of the net on Sunday, that is if he doesn't choke majorly.
What's the weather forecast for Saturday?
jyannis , 9/12/09 12:53 AM
I think it would be extremely unfair to have Rafa play TWO grand slam matches in ONE day. It would also be unfair if it was Delpo, Nole or fed facing that scenario.
fan4tennis , 9/12/09 12:57 AM
last i checked it was rainy thru saturday, until sunday morning.
stu , 9/12/09 12:58 AM
fan4tennis - nobody would ever play two singles matches in one day at a Grand Slam
the mens final is on Monday
if it gets rained out again tomorrow, the mens final is on Tuesday
RickyDimon , 9/12/09 1:08 AM
the ONLY positive i can think of is - people who have to work on mon/tue may sell their sunday final tickets for cheap and i might get to see my rafa-nole final :D
stu , 9/12/09 1:20 AM
May it be more fair if the men's semis were played on Monday and the final on Tuesday, even if it doesn't get rained out tomorrow? Rafa or Gonzo can really use that extra day of rest before going onto the semi-finals. Just my thoughts but I doubt that would happen IF weather's good tomorrow and Rafa v Gonzo can be concluded.
jyannis , 9/12/09 1:30 AM
jyannis, another way to look at it is that if Rafa wins, which I think he will now, he will probably only play another set or 2. considering they had today off, and that they are playing in the AM tomorrow, they might be able to come back fresh for a night match. not as fresh as delP and whoever they meet in the final of course...
stu , 9/12/09 1:40 AM
I completely lost faith in USTA scheduling, it sucks big time, biased in big way and of course very unfair to some players. They never learn from their stupid scheduling mistakes...
Nothing , 9/12/09 1:45 AM
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/article6831556.ece
Ne il Harman: US Open needs to get act together over schedule
"""
Anyone with half an interest in meteorology could have told the US Open officials that it would start to rain on Thursday evening and that Friday would be a washout. And what did they do? Schedule not one but two doubles matches to start the programme on Arthur Ashe Stadium court on Thursday. Juan Martín del Potro and Marin Cilic had to wait until mid-afternoon to begin their men?s quarter-final; Nadal and González started theirs (twice), but at midnight, the court surface greasy once more, they were sent back to their hotels.
The curse of the night sessions revisited. Rather than see that fairness prevailed ? that a grand-slam tournament actually put the tennis first ? the sport again bowed to its paymasters in television and had been comprehensively dumped upon.
Nadal leads 7-6, 6-6 (3-2 in the tie-break) and even should he win, is at an "enormous disadvantage" Del Potro, the semi-final opposition, had a restful Friday and the players on the other side of the draw, Roger Federer and Novak Djokovic, completed their quarter-finals on Wednesday. Nadal has become the tournament?s vampire, seen only at night.
Before the matter gets seriously out of hand, someone has to remind those in charge of the sport of their responsibilities. The same old faces sit in the same old presidential seats and nothing changes. The scheduling here is staggeringly unfair, stacked against players rather than being in their favour.
Nadal is not looking for a better deal for himself but an equitable deal for all. The Spaniard is going through physical agonies to try to win this championship ? and become the seventh male to win all four grand-slam events ? and every way he turns, he runs into another brick wall.
If he prevails tomorrow, Monday, or whenever they hold the final, he will deserve a medal to go with the cup.
"""
imjimmy , 9/12/09 3:26 AM
Thank you ricky for telling me that.
Thank you imjimmy for that great article. How true it is!!! Neil Harman is a respected writer and usually does not 'dump' on anyone. How anyone can deny that what he wrote in this article is not how it is....is ridiculous!
fan4tennis , 9/12/09 4:08 AM
If the USO builds a roof over Arthur Ashe stadium, they are not copying Wimbledon, they are really copying the Australian Open, which already has those facilities since 1988.
The scheduling should have taken into account the bad weather forecast and try to complete all the SF matches before the rain came. This is not a level playing field now. Unfair to Gonzo more than Rafa IMO as Rafa has some injury timeout. Still whoever goes thru will be disadvantaged. If Rafa gets thru, his body may not be able to take 3 matches in a row.
cable , 9/12/09 4:17 AM
Just like last year's scheduling
fan4tennis , 9/12/09 5:09 AM
stu, can you tell me.will your ticket still be valid to see the novak/fed game? i dont know how it works?been listening to interview with croft and rudzseki and the question about tickets hasn't been raised.
maxi , 9/12/09 10:00 AM
Still hoping for 'your' final stu :D
smr , 9/12/09 5:36 PM
Rafa just won 6:0 in the 3rd set.
He is No2 again.
VAMOS RAFA!
carrie , 9/12/09 6:52 PM
they might as well have just given the match to rafa on thursday...
maxi - yes, they sell tickets for the "sessions", not particular dates. my ticket is valid tomorrow..and the weather is predicted to be good too :)
smr - at the moment i'm ready to bet on it :)
stu , 9/12/09 6:55 PM
I was just coming back to here to spread the good news but you got it first carrie--lol!! Now we will see what time the SF are scheduled for him to play. No matter what, like Neil Harman said, Rafa is at a "enormous disadvantage." Doubt he could relax too much yesterday either for the SEVEN HOURS he had to wait at the tennis center seeing if he was going to play. Not like he could train and practice or anything like that (they did show fed practicing somewhere late in the day).
fan4tennis , 9/12/09 7:01 PM
jim courier said rafa will play first - which might be a bit of a disadvantage for the semis (or maybe not, today was like a practice session) but will definitely be an advantage for the final!
stu , 9/12/09 7:06 PM
is it rainin again???.....
vrael , 9/12/09 7:53 PM
Fed/Djoko on first, Rafa/Delpo on from 8pm GMT, so that means 3pm ET.
carrie , 9/12/09 8:28 PM
Well now that we have conflicting reports, the age-old question arises.
Who's on first?
fan4tennis , 9/12/09 9:01 PM
hey f4t, you live approx one weather day away from nyc, eh? so, are the matches gonna get washed out manana?
fed is on first; but he and nole did start first, fed is the reigning champ, #1 this year. maybe it will be different next year at us open...
i get your point tho or perhaps the general idea that fans could be tired of federer getting preferential treatment. but it's a tradition. i remember how special and favored rafa was at wimby 08, but... rafa was reigning champ and had pummeled roger at fo.
anyways..hope you are having a great day celebrating rafa into semi's! : )
zoey234 , 9/12/09 9:38 PM
oh durrr ...rafa was nor reigning champ at wimby.....he was getting the more favorable press tho..it was the fo pummeling of rog and rafa had won queens....right?
zoey234 , 9/12/09 9:44 PM
anyways f4t, on the brighter side...the more time right now rafa has, don't you think, the better? he did look worse on thursday ( his abd. injury, that is ) or maybe gonzo just tanked so bad rafa looked better that poor gonzo. i just think the more time rafa has the better his chances against delpo.
zoey234 , 9/12/09 10:08 PM
That was quick... On with the semis plz....
I read an article saying the one that benefited most is Delpo because Fed and Djoker might lose some rhythm having too much rest.
Top 5 Here in the semis... Let the games begin...
torres9 , 9/12/09 10:08 PM
i think it does help delpo. hurts fed too with too much rest ( you know he is gonna be all stiff and creaky cos he's old )
yeah....i want my tennis......whaaaaaa.....live tennis.....whaaaaa
zoey234 , 9/12/09 10:20 PM
if they dont finish the womens matches today, is there a possibility that the mens semis will take place simultaneously on Ashe and Armstrong on Sunday evening?!!!!
stu , 9/12/09 10:47 PM
zoey, our weather today has been overcast with scattered rain (not hard) and with some wind, it has been a tad chilly. Now they are saying Rafa is playing the semis first--lol. My "Who's on first?" crack fell flat. I guess it's only an American joke-lol. Carrie is saying that Rafa requested first, but who knows.
I was really looking forward to watching the Clijsters-Williams match. But doesn't look like I will be able to. Don't know what they will do if they have to play tomorrow. Who they will inconvenience in that case is anyone's guess. I hope you get to see the best tennis ever stu!!!
fan4tennis , 9/13/09 2:38 AM
ty f4t, you do a good weatherman imititation. now if we could have 'wake up with f4t' and replace al roarker (sp) - ykw, i mean?
i liked the "who's on first" - is that from the stooges? no need to answer, i gladly look stuff up.
me 2 on the serena match! who knows when and how the matches get scheduled. i imagine they have to prioritize and adjust things so not to be competing for viewers with NFL, especially if some matches have to be pushed to monday...wow, bloomberg is a tennis nut and isn't turner? maybe they could raise some capital and get poor arthur ashe a roof. god only knows, f4t.
zoey234 , 9/13/09 3:24 AM
The "who's on first" is an old Abbott and Costello routine--lol.
I don't even listen to the weathermen around here. They are usually wrong--lol. I was just reporting what our weather ACTUALLY is, no predictions involved. But our weather here is usually what hits NYC in the next day--lol.
Clijsters got first set and is 3-2 second set to Serena. Kim is making Serena fight like crazy! Great match and the crowd is loud!
fan4tennis , 9/13/09 4:19 AM
6-4, 4-3 Clijsters
Wozniaki is up one set lead
So women's matches today will be finished stu! Not a big fan of Serena and this is first time I've ever seen her anxious and frustrated by another player.
fan4tennis , 9/13/09 4:31 AM
lol.. you are more reliable...
serena usually cruises over opponents...this is a match!
zoey234 , 9/13/09 4:33 AM
Once Oudin got ousted (but still was incredible what she did), then I guess Clijsters became the new 'story' of the USO womens part. This is third match I've seen of hers and she is a tough cookie. They are saying that usually Serena has never had to fight someone with as much speed as Clijsters. Usually Serena's face is impassive but she looks anxious or frustrated.
fan4tennis , 9/13/09 4:43 AM
oudin was pretty incredible - hope she keeps it up under all the media pressure.
i have not watched kim live before but she is out-playing serena: shocking.....she could win....poor venus shivering
zoey234 , 9/13/09 4:50 AM
WOW--can't believe what just happened!
fan4tennis , 9/13/09 4:59 AM
wow what a weird end!
stu , 9/13/09 4:59 AM
disappointing all around...
zoey234 , 9/13/09 5:01 AM
It looks like the umpires were saying she told the linesperson "I will kill you" (cuz she repeated it and said "Are you serious?")and one of the commentators here (can't remember who) said they heard her say something about stuffing her racket down her(linesperson) throat. I know I at least heard her say quite a few cuss words (the rest I couldn't understand) and she was waving her racket not in a nice way towards the linesperson.
The official word is that because she had already received a warning earlier (for racket abuse), that her verbally, profane-laced abusive behavior got her a point penalty (which just happened to be match point). Most of the replays of her double fault (which brought all this on) are hard to tell but the commentators are saying it doesn't look like she DF.
fan4tennis , 9/13/09 5:10 AM
They all are saying that Kim was outplaying Serena and that she would've won anyway, which is what it looked like to me.
fan4tennis , 9/13/09 5:13 AM
serena went mad.........ballistic,nd it was a legit foot fault....thts pretty ugly if u ask me
clijsters vs wozniaki now
VAMOS KIM!!!
vrael , 9/13/09 5:22 AM
The angles they kept showing the FF over here were all from behind so to me, it was hard to tell. But her behavior, regardless, was unexcusable.
I hope Kim wins it too! Would be the best comeback for her to tennis!
fan4tennis , 9/13/09 5:30 AM
gonna be online at noon for your rafa f4t?
zoey234 , 9/13/09 5:33 AM
All my kids are showing up (more cooking--lol) but I might pull rank during Rafa's match! If they make fun of me, then I won't make dessert--lol!
fan4tennis , 9/13/09 5:45 AM
i will check in tt during rafa/delpo match ( can't wait to watch! ) but going into hibernation for roger/ nole...been there done that last year and got sick, f4t. i am really pitiful.
u r such a softie for your kids, aww...good on you, f4t. okay
zoey234 , 9/13/09 5:58 AM
I understand how you are during fed's matches so I won't be surprised not to see you til it's over. You're not pitiful....you are just an anxious person when fed is playing! I know my son and son-in-law are going to watch some football (have earplugs ready) BUT tennis is first before football--lol. I have huge pot roast in crockpot so I can choose when it is done (which conveniently probably won't be til after Rafa match is over--lol!!!) If he wins, my poor kids have to hear all about it. If he loses, my kids and Sophie will cheer me up!
fan4tennis , 9/13/09 6:06 AM
A great result for Kim. It would be a fairytale (what a horrible cliche :) comeback if she wins the USO but I also like Woz and wouldn't mind her winning. But I think Kim will take the title, she pretty strong mentally.
Vamos Kim!!!
Vamos Rafa!!!
Vamos Nole!!!
jean , 9/13/09 6:10 AM
zoey, I'm like you when Rafa is playing. It's like going to the dentist, I get seriously nervous before hand, and if he starts off well, the aneasthetic is working, if not, I'm feeling the pain from the drilling. If Rafa recovers, then I must have received a 2nd dose of painkiller, and I feel no more pain, and Rafa, shakes hands and comiserates with the loser.
carrie , 9/13/09 9:27 AM
Scan QR code to access Unibet mobile.
Bet on Sports wherever you are and whenever you like, with Unibet's quick and simple mobile client you can place bets, check results and see live odds.
For more info about QR codes & scanners click here.
approximately 2:00 PM on Friday
RickyDimon , 9/11/09 8:20 AM