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Tommy Haas © Tennistalk.com
Halle
Final
6/17/12 1 2 Tot
de  Tommy Haas 7 6 2
ch  Roger Federer 6 4 0
Roger Federer © Tennistalk.com
  • Haas upsets Federer to win Gerry Weber Open

    6/17/12 3:38 PM | Ricky Dimon
    Tommy Haas pulls off a shock title in Halle by defeating Roger Federer in straight sets on Sunday. Haas wins for the second time at the event and collects his 13th career ATP title.


    At 34 years old, Tommy Haas scored one of the biggest wins of his career on Sunday.

    Haas stunned world No. 3 Roger Federer 7-6(5), 6-4 in the final of the Gerry Weber Open to capture his 13th ATP title. The German struck five aces and dominated Federer's second serve to prevail in one hour and 35 minutes.

    Things started inauspiciously for Haas when he dropped serve to begin the match, but he was stellar the rest of the way. He soon broke back at 2-3 then had no trouble holding en route to a tiebreaker.

    Federer led by an early mini-break, gave it back, eventually recovered from a mimi-break down, but then fell behind again and lost it 7-5. The second-seeded Swiss also had chances in the second but missed break points in his first return game. Federer had two game points on his own serve at 4-4 only to get broken, thus allowing Haas to serve out the match.

    "I don't have many words to say really, except that it is an amazing feeling to win another title in Germany," said Haas. "My 13th title was a goal of mine to maybe achieve in the next coming months, years or however long I am going to play.

    "To have somebody across the net like Roger is a real honor for me. To have that picture with the winning trophy and Roger next to me is something really special, something I'll obviously never forget. I'm just really happy and proud."









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At last Tommy wins a title again So good at 34 Congrats Tommy and hope you continue

sals3 , 6/17/12 6:04 PM


Not too surprised by this after Rusty beat Fed here 2 years ago. These older guys can play on grass. It's sort of a lost art. All of Haas, Rusty, Nalby (if he's not banned) and even X-Man can do well and make the 2nd week if their bodies hold up. I'd never say Fed let a match go but I don't think he'll be too upset losing to his best friend on tour, especially with all the injuries he's suffered from in his career. I also don't think he'd have wanted to play 3 hours on Father's Day so no big disappointment here. A loss to Nadal before Wimbledon would have meant more here but to Haas not so much. Well done by the 34 year 'oldster'.

chr18 , 6/17/12 7:01 PM


I agree. Credit Haas but I don't think Fed wanted to go all out to win this just before Wimby.

Some great rallies today and the break point that Haas won in the second set was one of the best points I've seen. Top drawer. Fed is looking good for Wimby.

Conspirator , 6/17/12 7:17 PM


I'm really happy for Tommy. He deserves all this, he fought hard to be here now.

As for Federer. Well, he will have to adjust his game A LOT if he wants to get past the quarters/semis at Wimby. I don't know what happened to him but he is playing horrible tennis since winning Madrid.

Emiliano55 , 6/17/12 7:51 PM


Well... thats good for Fed... runner-up in little village 250 points tournament...
But don't be sad... new young players at peak are coming... I mean Tommy is only 4 years older... That is not fair!
So many points to loose in coming months... it will be pleasure to watch.
Also, nice to see Fed accepting and learning from better players... ( applauding on Tommy's point )... nice influence of Nole in Fed's game :)

zare , 6/17/12 9:10 PM


I don't know what happened to him but he is playing horrible tennis since winning Madrid.
Emiliano55 , 6/17/12 7:51 PM

That's what blue clay does for you.

Where does this leave Federer's Grass Slam pursuit?

nadline , 6/17/12 9:25 PM


Means nothing. Same as rafa's loss.

Conspirator , 6/17/12 9:48 PM


Why will it be a pleasure to watch somebody lose points? You mean like in Dubai, Indian Wells, Madrid and Rome this year? I don't think Fed is going to lose that many points going forward and he may surprise and gain points. Other than Paris indoors which he might not play, he can still repeat his results.

chr18 , 6/17/12 10:04 PM


Federers game is all over the place making too many errors he was twice a mini break up in the 1st set tie break but lost it 7-5 then failed to take his bps in 2nd and donated too many unforced errors

tennis2011 , 6/17/12 10:42 PM


Federers game is all over the place making to many unforced errors his ground strokes are not working at all. he was twice a mini break up in the 1st set tie break but still lost 7-5 failed to take his bps in 2nd set and donated too many errors. His form isnt good going into Wimbledon.

tennis2011 , 6/17/12 10:44 PM


Totally disagree about Fed's bad form...maybe wasn't 100% focused today but I think he's very ready to do well at Wimbly...he's my pick to win it.

scoot , 6/18/12 12:03 AM


I thought the level of tennis from both sides was quite high. Fed played a high level and Haas played very well to beat him. If this was the Olympics, however, I think Fed might have pulled it out. I don't think that the number of errors were abnormally high as players tend to go for more on grass.

So I agree with scoot (except for the Wimby pick).

Conspirator , 6/18/12 1:43 AM


I don't agree with scoot, Federer is playing horrible tennis. Dont know what happened to him. 3 months ago we had him moving like his vintage days, nowadays he is again slow, lacking reaction, missing incredible shots, bad confidence with his backhand. I don't see him reaching the semis at Wimby, seriously.


Speaking of Tommy. Is he officially back with Nike ? I was surprised seen him with Nike clothes, he was with K-Swiss at RG.

Emiliano55 , 6/18/12 1:46 AM


Just rewatched the last set and Fed did make quite a few errors in the last two games but Haas played well to capitalize. That break point in the 9th game for Haas was quite something. Give Fed the benefit of the doubt. He has played a lot of tennis recently. Still think he will make it to the Wimby SF after a week off. He took a nasty fall slipping on the grass in the last game which I'm sure he was consciously trying to avoid. Hope he didn't injure himself.

Conspirator , 6/18/12 2:03 AM


uh, <big thud> the old man can't win even 250 event? This is big disappointment to fanatic fedfans who are already couting the chicks over unhatched eggs lolz. Feels soooo bad, imagine he works very hard and reached the final only to get defeated by someone seeded outside 100?

Raindrops , 6/18/12 9:31 AM


Have u all seen this, hilarious:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZfhJr1xSHE
Also check out pseudofed's latest on Haas, especially funny if u r an Andy fan...;)

deuce , 6/18/12 1:20 PM


Looove @Pseudofed on Twitter and his new blog. He's a riot.

Again, the Fed loss means nothing wrt Wimby (same as Rafa's loss). They both got what they needed. By reaching the final, Fed got enough points to control his own destiny. If Fed is in Nole's half, Fed can become No. 1 by winning Wimby. Not that I think that will happen however. By playing a few grass matches, Rafa can better focus on fishing.

Conspirator , 6/18/12 2:32 PM


Oh quit comparing Fed's loss to Rafa's!! Booo......In case you were on Mars or something, Rafa just added to his Slam collection at the French..........something Fed doesn't know how to do lately............

Jeez, Fed losing to a 34 year old geriatric on grass...........and the pundits still have him as a favourite for Wimby!!! Craaaaazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rafaisthebest , 6/18/12 5:50 PM


C'mon RTIB, really?

I compare them only in that they were both meaningless as I've explained already. They both got only what they needed.

BTW, just curious as to what pundits have Fed as favourite to win Wimby???



Conspirator , 6/18/12 5:56 PM


The loss is irrelevant. Sure it would have been nice to win a 6th title there but it really has no bearing on Wimby. Rafa lost early but that too does'nt matter, he will be ready, just as all the big boys will.

brothdog , 6/19/12 10:35 AM


?I don?t feel like if I don?t win this one, you know, it?s a missed opportunity or whatever it is. ? It?s going to be a great tournament. I want to enjoy it, not just crumble under pressure and just talk about that if I don?t win. That?s not how I see it. Any medal would be a good one, but obviously in my situation, I?ve got to aim for gold.?
So said Roger Federer about the upcoming Olympics at Wimbledon. The reason he?s feeling a bit touchy on the subject: He?s already played in three Summer Games, and yet the all-time leader in Grand Slam titles does not have a medal in singles.
He?s also struggled with confidence over the past year-plus against the two men above him in the rankings. In January, he went out like a little lamb in the Australian Open to Rafael Nadal. Earlier this month hefell apart against Novak Djokovic at the French Open.
And now, with Wimbledon upon us and the Olympics to follow at the same venue, he realizes he has no more excuses left. Grass is supposed to be the surface best suited to his expansive skill set. If he?s going to do it ? win that elusive 17th major title and that even more elusive gold medal in singles ? he?s going to do it in the next six weeks. In August, after all, the grass is gone from the tour and Roger turns 31.
So ? can he do it?
At Wimbledon, the tougher the draw the better for Roger. That might be counter-intuitive considering his advanced age, buttennis begins and ends in the head, not the legs. Federer?s confidence can?t be all that great after his surprise loss to 34-year-old Tommy Haas in the final at Halle on Sunday. (Good for Tommy, a guy who almost certainly would be a major champion if not for a series of injuries and bad luck along the way.)
If Federer were five years younger, he?d shrug off a loss in agrass-court warmup tournament, just as Nadal has no doubt shrugged off his early exit in Halleat the hands of Philipp Kohlschreiber. But he?s not five years younger ? he?s 30 and feeling it. If he makes it to his eighth semifinal at Wimbledon, heneeds to know that he?s primed to go all the way. And back-to-back-to-back wins over, say, Milos Raonic, John Isner and Jo-Wilfried Tsonga will convince him he?s ready to make magic happen ? because he will already have made magic happen. He?s certainly not going to beat Nadal and Djokovic in the final weekendif he has any doubts about the state of his tennis.
Federer?s ability to stay up there in the Big 3, still routinely reaching semifinals and finals at majors, actually makes it all the harder for him to punch through for another Grand Slam title. He?s No. 3 in the world (and he briefly bumped up to No. 2 after winningthe Madrid Masters this spring), so expectations for him remain high. When Pete Sampras won hislast major in 2002 at 31, no one expected him to do it. He hadn?t won a title of any kind in two years. Same deal for 29-year-old Goran Ivanisevic when he won Wimbledon as a wild card in 2001. His march to Grand Slam glory came completely out of left field.
On the other side of the ledger is Andre Agassi. In 2003, he was stilla Top 5 player at 33, but the pressure that summer to get one more big title ? and thus inch a little bit closer in the career-stats department to his newly retired rival, Sampras ?- proved too much. He fell in the semifinals of the U.S. Open to Juan Carlos Ferrero, a French Open champion but a guy who really had no weapons with which to hurt Agassi on a hard court. Two months before he had lost at Wimbledon to chronic underachiever Mark Philippoussis.He would never win another major.
Federer?s all too aware of the downside of his late-career success. As he put it himself, he has to aim for gold. He knows he will receive no kudos for wining asilver or a bronze at the Olympics, or for reaching the semifinals at Wimbledon. Even though he?s nearly 31 and a full four or so years past his prime.
You can?t blame him for wanting to enjoy these two big tournaments coming up at his beloved Wimbledon. He?s earned that much. But he can?t, not really, because he has to win.
When you?re not considered a favorite, you play freer, and really that?s what Federer needs at this point. If he?s thinking, ?Just one more Wimbledon? or ?just one solo gold medal,? then he?s almostsure, in his own words, to crumble under pressure.
Nobody wants that, because that?s not how Roger Federer should go out. He should get his one more Slam, and then he should be afforded a few years ofaging underdog status, his ranking down in the teens, playing only intermittently but beautifully, making a thrilling, unexpected run deep at Wimbledon or the U.S. Open against some World Number 1 who?s too young to have any conception about how this old dude revolutionized the sport for him.

abhirf , 6/19/12 9:14 PM


^^^ lemme guess, Bleacher Report?

Loss was irrelevant IMO.

Conspirator , 6/19/12 10:27 PM


^^^ not sure about the original source. It was a comment posted by a fan on a thread on tennis.com .
As far as Fed's loss is concerned, even i dont read that much into it. But im a bit concerned coz he did look somewhat frustated after the loss. His FH's which were his strength looks more error prone than his BH's at the moment. Even his ROS is not like what it used to be ( maybe that has to do with ageing reflexes). Maybe he should relax a bit and rework over his strategies for the Wimby and Olympics. He just needs to take that pressure of himself. That's when he plays his best ( like FO 2011 or the WTF 2011 or IW 2012).

abhirf , 6/20/12 7:12 AM


^^^ not sure about the original source. It was a comment posted by a fan on a thread on tennis.com .
As far as Fed's loss is concerned, even i dont read that much into it. But im a bit concerned coz he did look somewhat frustated after the loss. His FH's which were his strength looks more error prone than his BH's at the moment. Even his ROS is not like what it used to be ( maybe that has to do with ageing reflexes). Maybe he should relax a bit and rework over his strategies for the Wimby and Olympics. He just needs to take that pressure of himself. That's when he plays his best ( like FO 2011 or the WTF 2011 or IW 2012).

abhirf , 6/20/12 7:12 AM


Federer says he'll be difficult to beat at Wimbledon, see Video Browser on:

http://blogs.tennis.com/thewrap/index.html

nadline , 6/20/12 10:35 AM


Priceless :-)
You have to hand it to him. He has an ego that simply won't lie down.

ed251137 , 6/20/12 10:27 PM


Federer is right! There are few that can beat him at Wimby. Wasn't easy for Rafa, Tsonga and Berdych and it won't be easy for whoever eventually takes him out this year.

Conspirator , 6/20/12 10:44 PM


^^^^headscratch............

Is this the same Federer who has not reached the Wimby final since..............when? The guy who has not won a grass court tournament since.............when? Are we to believe that he is now more lethal...............why, pray tell?

rafaisthebest , 6/20/12 10:59 PM


^^^^headscratch............

Since when did I say fed was more lethal............................?????

Since when did I say fed would reach the final............................?????

I just said I agreed with his assessment that he would be difficult to beat which is very likely true.

When was he not difficult to beat at Wimby.................pray tell?

Fed didn't say he was gonna win Wimby, just that he would be difficult to beat. So what's wrong with that???

:)

Conspirator , 6/20/12 11:19 PM


Okay........so:

you agree that he will be difficult to beat at Wimby when:

a. he is no longer lethal;
b. he has yet to prove he cab still reach the finals.

And........he will be difficult to beat but will not win Wimby.

Oooooooookaaaaaay..................

rafaisthebest , 6/20/12 11:58 PM


Okay......so:

As Lucky would say, "Please read carefully."

Difficult to beat means just that. Difficult to beat. I disagree with many that says Roger is often misinterpreted because English is not his first language. Like most tennis players, he is highly intelligent and picks his words carefully.

He USED to say thinks like he is or should be considered to be the favourite heading into a slam when he felt he was the favourite. He is not saying that here.

He is saying that he will be difficult to beat.

Rafa was difficult to beat at '12 AO, was he not? But did he win AO? Unfortunately, no.

Oooooooookaaaaaay?

:)

RTIB, at least we agree that Rafa is the Best. VAMOS Rafa!!!!!!!!!!

Conspirator , 6/21/12 12:13 AM


So to recap:

2008? Lost to Rafa in 5 sets (9-7 in the 5th) Difficult to beat.
2009? Won Wimby. Difficult to beat.
2010? Lost to Berdych in 4 sets. Difficult to beat. (Berdy played awesome and I wouldn't exactly call it easy)
2011? Lost to Tsonga in 5 sets. Difficult to beat.

He most likely won't make it past the semis but he WILL be difficult to beat.

DIFFICULT to beat does NOT mean WILL NOT be beat.

Rafa will most likely win this year. Nole is next likely IMO. The rest of the field has less than 10%. This does not contradict anything I've said. If Rafa or Nole meet Fed, unlikely that it will be in straights (although I'd be fine with that).

Can't believe I'm actually defending the Fed. Someone's gotta!

Conspirator , 6/21/12 12:24 AM


Sorry @Conspirator............your attempts at appearing fair are falling flat, just admit it, Roger is no longer difficult to beat. That he says he will be is normal, he is trying to gee himself up given his recent maulings at the hands of Nole and Haas.

It will be a major achievement if he reaches the semis at Wimby.............

rafaisthebest , 6/21/12 12:24 AM



Rafa will most likely win this year. .........................

Conspirator, 6/21/12 12:24 AM

Right on, bro!!!! Now, there's a man who WILL be difficult to beat...............

Vamos!!!!!!!

rafaisthebest , 6/21/12 12:27 AM


I really don't care if you think I'm falling flat LOL.

RTIB, I don't think I have to troll to be a Rafan.

Oddsmakers have fed as 3rd favourite to win Wimby. Obviously they don't think he will be easy to beat.

Answer the question I posed above...

How many times was Fed not "difficult to beat" at Wimby?

Conspirator , 6/21/12 12:30 AM


Those that say that Rafa's game is in decline are using the same one-sided mentality as those that say that Federer will not be difficult to beat at Wimbledon this year.

They just have differening agendas that cloud their view.

Conspirator , 6/21/12 12:37 AM


No, @Conspirator, you are falling into the same trap as a lot of people..............looking at Fed through sentimental lenses. You need to separate his past accomplishments from his present and future, the man is over 30! and do not attach equivalence to Rafa and Fed, they belong to different eras! Rafa is in his prime, Fed is past his...................

This is not diresepcting Fed or his accomplishments...............it's being real.

rafaisthebest , 6/21/12 12:55 AM


Well, I would like to agree with you, but there is no point in both of us being wrong RTIB.

You've conveniently ignored my question again.

I don't believe oddsmakers are sentimental nor am I regarding Federer!!! lol

Until he proves himself otherwise, no one should consider him easy to beat at Wimby. As a passive viewer and fan, some might have the luxury of thinking or maybe just saying so but I doubt anyone who has to actually face him at Wimby will go in thinking the task at hand won't be difficult. I know Rafa, Nole and Muzz won't go in thinking like that.

Conspirator , 6/21/12 1:11 AM


"do not attach equivalence to Rafa and Fed" - rafaisthebest, 6/21/12 12:55 AM

Uhh, where did I do that exactly?

I only compared an aspect of their respective extreme militant fanatical fans.

Stop bending my words. Please read more carefully.

Conspirator , 6/21/12 1:18 AM



Until he proves himself otherwise, no one should consider him easy to beat at Wimby.



Conspirator, 6/21/12 1:11 AM

This is what I have been saying in this conversation all along but for some reason you do not get it.............HE HAS PROVED HIMSELF EASY TO BEAT.

Now, if you and Fed think otherwise, there is nothing much I can say..........it's your opinion and you are entitled to it..................

rafaisthebest , 6/21/12 1:42 AM


Let's revisit my original statement shall we?

Federer is right! There are few that can beat him at Wimby. Wasn't easy for Rafa, Tsonga and Berdych and it won't be easy for whoever eventually takes him out this year.

Again, back up your own unqualified statement and answer my question (you've conveniently ignored yet again), how many times at Wimby did he "PROVED HIMSELF EASY TO BEAT"??

Who ever beat Federer easy at Wimby?

I hope Rafa doesn't enter into Wimby with that attitude.

LOL


Conspirator , 6/21/12 1:53 AM


"This is what I have been saying in this conversation all along but for some reason you do not get it.............HE HAS PROVED HIMSELF EASY TO BEAT." - rafaisthebest, 6/21/12 1:42 AM

Not at Wimby, he hasn't which you conveniently truncated from my quote.

(Did I mention that Rafa is the Best BTW? Haha)

Conspirator , 6/21/12 2:03 AM


Federer has proved himself easy to beat? by losing to the no.1 player twice in a row (on clay) and playing poorly against an inspired Haas who beat Berdych earlier? And then Conspirator - a Nadal fan - is biased because he/she has the nerve to believe Federer will be difficult to beat? That's pretty pathetic.

I doubt Fed will win Wimbledon, and I'm sure Nadal and Djokovic would beat him if they met. But I think whoever beats Federer will have played very well to beat him.

Bharata , 6/21/12 2:09 AM


What is pathetic is the way you insist on refusing to accept that Fed is no longer the force he was.................just ask David Goffin.

rafaisthebest , 6/21/12 2:40 AM


And Rafa played poorly against an inspired Kohlschreiber. So what? Same as Fed's loss to Haas.

Pretty much meaningless in terms of what will transpire at Wimby.

RTIB probably thinks Haas is gonna beat Fed in the 1st round. Brilliant.

Conspirator , 6/21/12 2:41 AM


..............and just because someone says they are a Rafa fan does not mean they are.....................just saying.

rafaisthebest , 6/21/12 2:44 AM


RTIB, by ignoring my question and simply repeating your unsubstantiated claims over and over, you're admitting you have no valid position.

Yap-yap-yap, keep that mouth flappin' and do no listenin'. - Foghorn Leghorn

Conspirator , 6/21/12 2:46 AM



And Rafa played poorly against an inspired Kohlschreiber. So what? Same as Fed's loss to Haas.

Conspirator, 6/21/12 2:41 AM

I will say this again...........do not attach equivalence to Rafa's loss to Fed's loss. Senseless, defies logic................

rafaisthebest , 6/21/12 2:48 AM


..............and just because someone says they are a Rafa fan does not mean they are.....................just saying.
rafaisthebest, 6/21/12 2:44 AM

Agreed. Finally, some self examination.

Conspirator , 6/21/12 2:48 AM


Relax @Conspirator..................Fed will be fine, just do not get your hopes up............you will be disappointed.

rafaisthebest , 6/21/12 2:52 AM


Alright RTIB, it might take me a while but I recognize when I'm being trolled. Now please read carefully...

Those two losses are equivalent because both Rafa and Fed got what they "needed".

Rafa got his feet wet on grass and Fed got enough points such that he controls his own destiny for his bid for No. 1 (not that he will get there) IF Nole doesn't make the final and IF Fed wins.

Get it? They both got what they needed. Equal. Get over it.

That's mathematics, son! You can argue with me, but you can't argue with figures!

Conspirator , 6/21/12 2:53 AM


Relax @Conspirator..................Fed will be fine, just do not get your hopes up............you will be disappointed. - rafaisthebest, 6/21/12 2:52 AM

Wrong again, I'll be happy if he goes out 1st round.

Again, you have nothing but rhetoric. Same as all the bots whether they be Fedbots or Rafabots. lol

This is becoming repetitive and boring so unless you have some relevant Wimby facts to back up your nonsensical claims, I'm done with this and we can agree to disagree.

Vamos Rafa!!!!

Conspirator , 6/21/12 3:00 AM


Me? Get over what? You are hilarious..................

You are the one hurrumping all over the site attempting (and failing) to convince me that Fed is a threat at Wimby. Why else would you be getting hot under the collar?

And what's this nonsense about Rafa and Fed got what they "needed"? Is this your latest rationalisation to soften the blow of Fed's pasting at the hands of Tommy the geriatric? You want to believe that loss meant nothing to Fed, fine, suit yourself.

I bet you Fed thinks otherwise.

Once again, leave Rafa out of this................we are talking about Fed and his being a threat at Wimby..................

rafaisthebest , 6/21/12 3:01 AM


You really need to learn to relax.......................this is nothing to get this excited about...............

rafaisthebest , 6/21/12 3:03 AM


^^^^ yawn, boring, you've said nothing new. #rhetoric

Conspirator , 6/21/12 3:05 AM


^^^^ yawn, boring, you've said nothing new. #rhetoric

Conspirator , 6/21/12 3:06 AM


Don't worry, Wimby is just around the corner................you will soon get a chance to test your Fed theory.....

And my posts are so boring you find time to respond to them............what does that say about you?

rafaisthebest , 6/21/12 3:08 AM


As fed would say, I chose to double post.

Conspirator , 6/21/12 3:09 AM


So boring you find time to respond to my posts...................interesting life you lead.

rafaisthebest , 6/21/12 3:10 AM


Did anybody consider the fact that it may rain at championship weekend and the semifinal or final could be played under a roof? Fed can beat Djoker or Nadal or anybody else indoors.

chr18 , 6/21/12 3:15 AM


Maybe fed can do a rain dance!!!

Loss meant as much to fed as rafa's did to him.

Yes My life is quite interesting. Thank you My fan. #goat #humble

Conspirator , 6/21/12 3:20 AM


The truth shall out................always.

rafaisthebest , 6/21/12 3:24 AM


Umm, it wasn't a compliment. You don't get it do you rtib. Can someone explain it to him sloooooowly?

Conspirator , 6/21/12 3:35 AM


Sorry to burst your bubble @conspirator but my post was not aimed at you. I stopped our conversation when you indicated you found my posts boring.

Clearly you are not bored by my posts. Why else would you keep talking to me?

rafaisthebest , 6/21/12 3:40 AM


Wow how long did it take you to come up with that one?

Why? Because its too funny man!
I thought you were in Europe. Given the time you must be in North America or insomniac.

No offense buddy. Just having some fun.

Conspirator , 6/21/12 3:50 AM


"What is pathetic is the way you insist on refusing to accept that Fed is no longer the force he was.................just ask David Goffin."

Well, I did say I think Fed won't win Wimbledon...I also did say NAdal and Djokvoic would beat him...what else do you want? Reading all the posts above, nobody has offered anything but empty rhetoric about why they think Fed has proved he is 'easy to beat'. Conspirator has made a case why the people who beat Federer recently have had to play well.
Clearly, Fed's loss to Haas meant more to him than Nadal's loss to Kohlschreiber. Now since Nadal's such a great sportsman, we know he didn't tank the match. But he just tried maybe 75% and that wasn't enough. Probably Fed didn't put in his full effort into playing Haas either.

Bharata , 6/21/12 4:14 AM


Fed definitely didn't go 100% nor did Rafa. Yes they both wanted to win but neither needed to win.

Last thing either player wanted was risk of injury leading up to Wimby by going for too much.

Happens all the time. Like I said, meaningless in terms of Wimby. Just my craaaazy theory because I'm such a Fed fan (rtib read sarcasm, not as my fed fandom escaping).

Conspirator , 6/21/12 4:22 AM


A big debate raged last year when his supporters argued vehemently that winning either another Wimbledon or another WTF was a far higher priority for Roger than winning a gold in singles at the Olympics. In fact they were pretty scathing about the importance of an Olympic gold and argued that Nadal's medal was of little consequence since he has never managed to win the WTF.

Should Federer lose at Wimbledon but win at the Olympics, I rather think they will change their tune - particularly as it would mean he would be only the third man to achieve the Golden Slam.

ed251137 , 6/22/12 3:54 AM


^^^ Not Golden Slam but the Super Slam ( all 4 GS+WTF+Gold). He himself has set Wimby and Olympics as his priority and if he achieves any of them he will be happy and so would be his fans.

abhirf , 6/22/12 6:55 AM


Olympics medal in tennis only hyped after 2008 and everyone knows that.

KMA , 6/22/12 10:11 AM


Actually Fed was the one who hyped up the Olympics singles gold. After winning the doubles gold, he now desires the singles gold. Maybe after seeing Rafa winning the singles gold, Fed also wants that.

luckystar , 6/22/12 11:04 AM


Neither Fed nor his fans can fool anyone - they change the goal posts as and when it suits them. I do not give a rats arse how many titles or how many records Fed achieves, that is for him and his fans to enjoy as they so obviously think that these things are of the utmost importance. He is a great tennis player and will go down in history as one of the best - end of.

schatz , 6/22/12 12:13 PM


@Conspirator,

You called it right, Fed in Nole's half.
I prefer to believe it as incidental.

sabs , 6/22/12 12:39 PM


LOL, sabs, I wish I could believe it was random too. Thanks for the credit!

This year I'm 3/3 having predicted Fed in Rafa's half at AO, Nole's half at FO and now Nole's half at Wimby. I had a 1 in 8 chance of predicting these three events if they were truly random.

Wish the stock market was so predictably "random". I'd be rich.

Tennis is big business. With all of the potential revenue related to TV ratings, which, in turn, varies depending on story lines and who plays who for what, it is naive to believe that these things are left to chance and the math speaks for itself.

Conspirator , 6/22/12 3:26 PM



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